Derby horses

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He is a closing sprinter at best who got tremendous setups in both of his stakes wins.

However, he did have significant trouble in the Risen Star, so he deserves a pass for that. His BC Juvie was weak, as he was not nearly as wide on the turn as some seem to believe, and as DrugS has pointed out numerous times was simply a beneficiary of a huge pace that collapsed. He lost by ten lengths for God's sake.

His second in the Breeder's Futurity was flat out dreadful. He had a picture perfect trip and did next to no running. The first and third horses were significantly better than him that day.

I think we agree on what he will most likely become and I think it is worth noting that the Breeders' Futurity was clearly a very strong race in terms of competitors. I'm not much of a "key race" guy, but I think that one was pretty good.

NT

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i agree with him because i saw his race at saratoga, he got a DREAM SET UP...
and besides that he has not really done a thing in my opinion, his bc juvenile race was not that impressive

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i agree with him because i saw his race at saratoga, he got a DREAM SET UP...
and besides that he has not really done a thing in my opinion, his bc juvenile race was not that impressive

Did he not do what he was supposed to do then? He absolutely walked out of the gate then won going away after enjoying a hot pace. He was supposed to inhale the field and he did. As far as one-turn performances go last year, it was up there in my opinion, along with Scat Daddy/Nobiz in the Champagne. Of course, that's my opinion.

NT

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Did he not do what he was supposed to do then? He absolutely walked out of the gate then won going away after enjoying a hot pace.

The circumstances of that race were such that he was going to get the trip/setup of a lifetime.

He took full advantage....certainly making the best of it. However, when he got a similar dream setup in the Breeders Cup Juvenile, in a route race, he was smoked and ran an awful 2nd.

When you consider his mother was 5-3-1-0 lifetime sprinting...and was a winner of the Grade 1 Spinaway (the female equivlant of the Hopeful) and that she made 5 career starts routing, and never ran better than 3rd....I think it becomes harder to like CQ's chances at a Classic distance. Even though his sire is a Derby winner