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Old 02-14-2007, 04:58 PM
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Oh please. This is ridiculous!


Sure it is...anything you say!
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:59 PM
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Oh please. This is ridiculous!
I'm glad you pointed this out....


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But then, if folks stay busy pointing out the shortcomings of others, they can ignore theirs!

what exactly were you trying to infer about all of us? I guess hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:04 PM
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I'm glad you pointed this out....





what exactly were you trying to infer about all of us? I guess hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Yep, the usual response! Must be a hypocrite for speaking the truth! Again, I was responding to Buffy's point...I don't recall using names!
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:10 PM
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Yep, the usual response! Must be a hypocrite for speaking the truth! Again, I was responding to Buffy's point...I don't recall using names!

I don't get it...who were these "others' then you were speaking about?

You're very intelligent and you can see how that can be construed as a cheap shot on the people you don't agree with.

Maybe I'm a dummy...I'm missing something.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:02 PM
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I don't get it...who were these "others' then you were speaking about?

You're very intelligent and you can see how that can be construed as a cheap shot on the people you don't agree with.

Maybe I'm a dummy...I'm missing something.
No, you're just personalizing my statement...obviously, if you read what I posted IN CONTEXT, you realize that I make a global statement with regards to OTHERS...like THEM for example. Society operates in measurable ways, using known dogma and thought-structures, we live in a society filled with racism, sexism...a whole lot of "isms". I make generalizations about society as a whole to avoid attacking individuals...it isn't people that are the problem, taken individually folks are good and caring...but we are conditioned from birth in some ways...many are productive but some are not! We are taught to fear others who we perceive as different than ourselves and that fear often turns to hate. We judge folks badly if they are "different" or don't fit some societal norm...that is and always has been my point! It is not up to me to judge another person's inate goodness...we all make judgements...do we let our child go with this person, do we loan this person money...but that's different that a public condemnation of someone who's life just ended...
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:49 PM
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No, you're just personalizing my statement...obviously, if you read what I posted IN CONTEXT, you realize that I make a global statement with regards to OTHERS...like THEM for example. Society operates in measurable ways, using known dogma and thought-structures, we live in a society filled with racism, sexism...a whole lot of "isms". I make generalizations about society as a whole to avoid attacking individuals...it isn't people that are the problem, taken individually folks are good and caring...but we are conditioned from birth in some ways...many are productive but some are not! We are taught to fear others who we perceive as different than ourselves and that fear often turns to hate. We judge folks badly if they are "different" or don't fit some societal norm...that is and always has been my point! It is not up to me to judge another person's inate goodness...we all make judgements...do we let our child go with this person, do we loan this person money...but that's different that a public condemnation of someone who's life just ended...
fair enough, I guess the caps got through to me

Personally, I also think generalizations, or stereotypes, also feed the forementioned "isms" you speak about. This thread was about the media and and the ridiculous saturation as of late. Somehow it was turned into a lack of morality, compassion. I can't speak for anyone but I honestly believe most didn't think it's good her life ended...

Hopefully, when I'm older life will be so black and white...but right now I sure see an awful lot of gray
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:14 PM
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fair enough, I guess the caps got through to me

Personally, I also think generalizations, or stereotypes, also feed the forementioned "isms" you speak about. This thread was about the media and and the ridiculous saturation as of late. Somehow it was turned into a lack of morality, compassion. I can't speak for anyone but I honestly believe most didn't think it's good her life ended...

Hopefully, when I'm older life will be so black and white...but right now I sure see an awful lot of gray
I agree that generalizations when applied to groups or individuals are harmful and often inaccurate, but applying generalizations to a society as a whole is often useful...ie: most Americans identify Christianity as their faith, most Americans are of European descent. You are also correct that life isn't black and white rather a constant struggle to decide between shades of grey, there are however certain principles that are black and white...the trick is deciding how they apply to certain situations.
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