JAZIL....Most Overrated horse in the history of horse racing....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Gander, what Cannon Shell said and how he said it was decidedly different than how this pointgiven character said what he had to say. When you call out the world on a horse like Jazil, you're going to take some grief for it. When you start several different threads proclaiming a horse won't finish in the exacta for a particular race, people are going to call you out on it when said horse comes in for the place. These are two entirely different types of posters.

Point Givens are found everyday at every track in the country, probably all over the world. He had a strong opinion about Corinthian, got a much better price because of the presence of Jazil and was correct. However incorrect and outlandish statements are not tolerated by the community here and as such he left.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Point Givens are found everyday at every track in the country, probably all over the world. He had a strong opinion about Corinthian, got a much better price because of the presence of Jazil and was correct. However incorrect and outlandish statements are not tolerated by the community here and as such he left.

Nah, he's on right now. LOL

His "this is my last post" thread reminded me of some of Curt's drunken ramblings over on the old ESPN board. Too funny...

[Buffymommy]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nah, he's on right now. LOL

His "this is my last post" thread reminded me of some of Curt's drunken ramblings over on the old ESPN board. Too funny...

Didn't Curt do that here too?

Seriously, I really didn't have a problem with the dude except that he was saying the horse was a piece of crap when he isn't. Not saying he is the BEST HORSE since Secretariat, but he is a nice useful horse who will get in the $$$ in some nice races and make his owners some money. Nothing wrong with that. I really don't think he is overhyped. I think the majority of people believe as I do. I think that is what made us angry yesterday.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

O.K...Some people have made some big statements.We will see what takes place this year.Like I have said,I like both horses,and yes,Gander,trainers that talk sht about Grade 1 Winners are A Holes too(just my opinion.)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

O.K...Some people have made some big statements.We will see what takes place this year.Like I have said,I like both horses,and yes,Gander,trainers that talk sht about Grade 1 Winners are A Holes too(just my opinion.)

And people who call names are usually not smart enough to have relevant discussions with.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

O.K...Some people have made some big statements.We will see what takes place this year.Like I have said,I like both horses,and yes,Gander,trainers that talk sht about Grade 1 Winners are A Holes too(just my opinion.)

By the way I think Grade 1 winners Sutra and Meadow Breeze are mediocre horses too.

[Cajungator26]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

Chuck with a Grade 1 Winner? I think he almost got one with Battle Won.In the 2005 Breeders CUP SPRINT??? No...Uh ,no,not that race....Must have been the race at Del Mar.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...le.cgi?id=6485

Maybe in 2007

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

This has nothing to do with me.

Is Jazil a good horse compared to the average horse? Of course. But is he a good horse compared to past Classic winners? Certainly he would be in the bottom 10% in modern times. Is he a horse that has won 2 races in Feb of his 4 year old year? Yes. Would he have won the Belmont had it really meant anything and Bernardini had run? Most likely no. Could he improve and go on to be a top calibur horse? Maybe but if were to retire right now history would soon look at him as another Sarava, Commendable, or Go and Go who are all forgetable except to the connections.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nah, he's on right now. LOL

His "this is my last post" thread reminded me of some of Curt's drunken ramblings over on the old ESPN board. Too funny...

Has there ever been a "this is my last post, I'm outta here" post that actually turned out to be just that? I kinda doubt it.