JAZIL....Most Overrated horse in the history of horse racing....

[Left Bank]

Brother Derek is the biggest overrated horse in my book!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

A couple of Brother Derek's '06 performances were very overrated....however, he's a little better horse than Jazil....whom he dead-heated with, for 4th, in the '06 Derby.

An opinion on Jazil is like an opinion on the new $20.00 bill. Yours is shared by many no matter what it is. Usually, these opinions are borrowed , as much ink has been spilled writing about his races.

A real opinion on a horse would be something provocative on Little Cherokee.

He ran in yesterdays ninth in NY, as the default post time favorite for two gate scratches. Multi-race ticket pain. Mr. Tater would be an interesting horse to have an opinion on too.


Don't fight over horses. Fight over bets on horses.

[slotdirt]

I'd say Brother Derek was definitely more overrated than Jazil at one point. Now, however, Brother Derek's kind of like the Funny Cide of the handicap division, that is, with his faculties still in tact, of course. Nowadays, Jazil is probably the more highly regarded horse.

[Mac88]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'd say Brother Derek was definitely more overrated than Jazil at one point. Now, however, Brother Derek's kind of like the Funny Cide of the handicap division, that is, with his faculties still in tact, of course. Nowadays, Jazil is probably the more highly regarded horse.

I think a bit of the luster surrounding Brother Derek will begin to fade. AN ok but over rated Derby performance that he has not backed up. Decent fourth in BC Classic but definately bias aided. SInce then some OK efforts out west. He is what he is.

[Gander]

Brother Derek is a great horse to have around because he continuously takes strange win money every time he runs, creating better than deserved prices on horses like Arsen Squad (3/1), Awesome Gem (9/1) and Latent Heat (6/1).

But I still think Jazil at 4/5 at Gulfstream 2nd off a race that was very average against a mediocre Take the Bluff, was the worst win bet I have seen this year.

Those who were smart enough to hammer him at 6/1 in the Belmont, good for you. I was one of the stupid ones who thought High Finance was a good enough horse to win.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Gander

Brother Derek is a great horse to have around because he continuously takes strange win money every time he runs, creating better than deserved prices on horses like Arsen Squad (3/1), Awesome Gem (9/1) and Latent Heat (6/1).

But I still think Jazil at 4/5 at Gulfstream 2nd off a race that was very average against a mediocre Take the Bluff, was the worst win bet I have seen this year.

Those who were smart enough to hammer him at 6/1 in the Belmont, good for you. I was one of the stupid ones who thought High Finance was a good enough horse to win.

I was at Gulf for the late ones yesterday and also thought he was a bet against. But mostly I was there because I thought it was an interesting race as opposed to a great betting opportunity as 2.40-1 was no great price on Corinthian either, at least in my mind.

My "worst win odds" of the year at Gulfstream honors go to Miesque's Approval last Saturday at 4/5. Why anyone would take that price on a horse whose last wins were at odds of 40-1, 25-1 and 10-1 absolutely flabbergasts me. It's always nice and interesting to see a BC winner come back to run and I'm a huge Wolfson fan (something like 22 of his 46 wins in 2006 were stakes).

But what the hell is the point of betting these kind of horses at less than even money?

[Danzig]

just saw that danthebluegrassman is in for an 18k tag today.
too many think that because a horse was once on the derby trail, he will always be better then the other horses he faces-which is why bro derek gets bet down.

i can understand some not liking jazil, but he's not overrated. no one has rated him-and everyone knows what a belmont win can mean-sarava is an excellent example of that.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

just saw that danthebluegrassman is in for an 18k tag today.
too many think that because a horse was once on the derby trail, he will always be better then the other horses he faces-which is why bro derek gets bet down.

i can understand some not liking jazil, but he's not overrated. no one has rated him-and everyone knows what a belmont win can mean-sarava is an excellent example of that.

What Baffert did by entering Danthebluegrass in the Derby to keep another out, then scratch the horse was a disgrace.