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[randallscott35]

Danzig,
I kind saw the diminshing of his performance and "times" debates as shots at the horse and race....Any race can be picked apart, but if you are unbiased and watch that race, its hard not to think its impressive....But maybe I'm taking those posts the wrong way....I'm just used to the general negativity towards performances.

[The Bid]

Thats horseracing. Everyone sees things differently, everyone likes different horses, sees different things in races and PPs. Thats what makes it so great. Everyone has their own opinion, mine is that was an exceptional performance.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Danzig,
I kind saw the diminshing of his performance and "times" debates as shots at the horse and race....Any race can be picked apart, but if you are unbiased and watch that race, its hard not to think its impressive....But maybe I'm taking those posts the wrong way....I'm just used to the general negativity towards performances.

ah, i see...

i thought his coming back on after clipping barcolas heels was great, altho i did make the comment that you look that much better when everyone else is retreating. but he IS better than those others. they should have been retreating.
yeah, not a world class field...but on the other hand, he could be in the stall next to bernardini! and this was just to get him going, dubai is the big one...

i know discreet cat is entered in more than one race. if invasor goes over and trains well, i wouldn't be surprised to see DC avoid him...keep his winning streak intact.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I kind saw the diminshing of his performance and "times" debates as shots at the horse and race.

Ok......so the focus should only be 100% on the trouble he had on the turn, when the race was collapsing in front of him....and all the very favorable things that went his way must be ignored?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Ok......so the focus should only be 100% on the trouble he had on the turn, when the race was collapsing in front of him....and all the very favorable things that went his way must be ignored?

Did any of his races impress you? Or did he have a perfect trip in all of those also? Did they all collapse? Did he not clip heels or check and rebreak again?....the focus doesn't need to be on the trouble at all. I doubt he was wound that tight for this anyway. I don't think the winners check stipulates that you have to run1:47 to get the winners share.

And frankly I was making a general statement about the board and performances which has been made before.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Did any of his races impress you? Or did he have a perfect trip in all of those also?

IMO, his last two races were more impressive.

In the Whitney....Jara unwisely moved very pre-maturely, into hot fractions, to take it to Flower Alley....he somehow still had enough left late, to turn back a dream trip Sun King. It was a tremendous performance...as he was clearly much better than everyone else in the field that day.

In the BC Classic....he got his trip and setup...but he beat a very tough field.

He did everything he had to do today---however, it was no historically great performance....like many are acting.

I appologize for knocking Sun King....for his no doubt "great" performance in teh Whitney.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

IMO, his last two races were more impressive.

In the Whitney....Jara unwisely moved very pre-maturely, into hot fractions, to take it to Flower Alley....he somehow still had enough left late, to turn back a dream trip Sun King. It was a tremendous performance...as he was clearly much better than everyone else in the field that day.

In the BC Classic....he got his trip and setup...but he beat a very tough field.

He did everything he had to do today---however, it was no historically great performance....like many are acting.

I appologize for knocking Sun King....for his no doubt "great" performance in teh Whitney.

it was a great performance in that he had a troubled trip, which could have been disastrous and thankfully wasn't, and came back on to win.
as for sun king, he did have a good performance in the whitney. horses do that sometimes, run over their head. hell, look at seek gold and colonial colony in their stephen fosters!

[blackthroatedwind]

DrugS is secretly Sun King's biggest fan and it is only in his bitter disappointment that he lost two of the biggest races in 2006 by slim margins that he dares knock him. It is simply nothing more than self-flagellation.

[The Bid]

Seek Golds performance was "ELECTRIC"

[blackthroatedwind]

And, by the way, I am in the camp of posters that think all things considered Invasor had a decent trip. He had some trouble, and certainly showed some toughness, but he also saved ground and beat a field he was supposed to handle.

While I am dubious of his chances of beating Discreet Cat in the World Cup I will be rooting with ever fiber of my being for him to do just that if for no other reason than I will look forward to 1367 posts by DrugS detailing why Discreet Cat ran the best race and only furthered his reputation as the greatest horse to ever wear a bridle.