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Old 02-01-2007, 03:28 PM
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perhaps i am missing something, but why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor?
these other horses don't stand much of a chance in my opinion. will invasor be at his best? who cares? his worst race in this country is better than any race run by any of the other horses in this field.
betting against invasor in this race would be crazy.
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magna graduate?
wtf?
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:29 PM
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perhaps i am missing something, but why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor?
these other horses don't stand much of a chance in my opinion. will invasor be at his best? who cares? his worst race in this country is better than any race run by any of the other horses in this field.
betting against invasor in this race would be crazy.
ap arrow?
magna graduate?
wtf?

Because we KNOW he is going have such LOW odds that is it really worth picking him to win? Nah, we want to go where the money is.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:31 PM
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Hes coming off a layoff and its a prep for a race that has significance (Dubai World Cup).

They laughed at Mccans Mojave too.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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Because we KNOW he is going have such LOW odds that is it really worth picking him to win? Nah, we want to go where the money is.
invasor is an absolute steal at 3/5 against the mules in this race.
betting invasor in this race is worth it for the same reason that picking up free money off the ground is worth it.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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invasor is an absolute steal at 3/5 against the mules in this race.
betting invasor in this race is worth it for the same reason that picking up free money off the ground is worth it.
I doubt he'll go off at 3/5.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:38 PM
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I doubt he'll go off at 3/5.
what do you think he'll go off at?
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:40 PM
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invasor is an absolute steal at 3/5 against the mules in this race.
betting invasor in this race is worth it for the same reason that picking up free money off the ground is worth it.

Sometimes it is not worth bending over to pick up a penny off the ground.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:41 PM
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Sometimes it is not worth bending over to pick up a penny off the ground.
depends on who's right behind you.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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its a nice card, but it could have been alot better with ec in the turf race and pt in the donn. i still like chatain
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depends on who's right behind you.

That is true if Matthew Macfadyen was standing behind me I may do the bend/snap to pick up that penny.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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Its not betting against Invasor it finding out the 2,3,4th place horses

No one who has any knowledge is gonna put WIN bets on him at 3/5 however a ton of people will have him as top or 2nd in tris and supers

So remember

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Old 02-01-2007, 03:47 PM
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so let's say invasor is 2/5 or even 1/5 and some horse like AP Arrow is 15/1. ap arrow is still not a good bet. this horse has never won a graded stakes race. are the odds really only 15/1 that he will win the race. NO!!!!! it would take an act of god for him to win.
i'm all for finding a good horse at a price....but there are times (like this) when the entire field is so overmatched by one horse that it doesn't even make sense to look for value. there isn't any.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:49 PM
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so let's say invasor is 2/5 or even 1/5 and some horse like AP Arrow is 15/1. ap arrow is still not a good bet. this horse has never won a graded stakes race. are the odds really only 15/1 that he will win the race. NO!!!!! it would take an act of god for him to win.
i'm all for finding a good horse at a price....but there are times (like this) when the entire field is so overmatched that it doesn't even make sense to look for value. there isn't any.

oh come on he will be like 1/9 or worse. We are talking about the HOY last year who is only four techically.
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I'm fully aware of the Invasor prep for Dubai angle, but we're talking about a horse who is 9/10 lifetime, and should be able to jog home beating this weak field.
Chatain looks nice, but with 4 lifetime starts, I really doubt he'll be able to shake free of Invasor.
And it is a terrible betting race, but who is going to complain about a single in the pick 4, or the Magna 5?

Not me.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:15 PM
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What happens if it rains down there?? Any good off track runners on the card
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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perhaps i am missing something, but why in hell would anyone in their right mind bet a dime on any horse in this race not named invasor?
these other horses don't stand much of a chance in my opinion. will invasor be at his best? who cares? his worst race in this country is better than any race run by any of the other horses in this field.
betting against invasor in this race would be crazy.
ap arrow?
magna graduate?
wtf?
If this was 100% true, the other horses should just scratch. There are going to be times when Invasor loses... it may happen this weekend.
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:35 PM
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he should win easy. but i wouldn't bet him. why walk to collect .05 on the dollar? not worth setting an alarm clock for that!
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If this was 100% true, the other horses should just scratch. There are going to be times when Invasor loses... it may happen this weekend.
second money will pay well..and then you can also put graded stakes placed on the stallion page...
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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If this was 100% true, the other horses should just scratch. There are going to be times when Invasor loses... it may happen this weekend.
i completely disagree. one of these bums is going to pick up a nice paycheck for second place.
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