Steve Nash

Originally Posted by T3B

He just simply outworked, outplayed and outsmarted other players.

Pat, do you remember the interview the did with Xavier (X-Man) McDaniel? They were talking about Larry and the end of game situations. X said something along the lines of...

....Larry knew he was getting the ball, you knew Larry was getting the ball. Larry would come tell you he was getting the ball, he would tell you where he was gonna shoot it from and then he would tell you that he was gonna bury the shot in your face....and after he made the shot, all you could do was walk off the court and shake your head.


LB was never afraid to talk trash, but no one backed it up like he did.

Kev there is more than the interview. They have the microphone down on the court and a camera on Bird and McDaniel when Bird was cussing him and vice versa. Bird said I am going to shoot a bleepin 3 on you from right here you bleep. And McDaniel bleepity bleeped back. and bird took the inbounds pass and shot the 3 right where he had pointed and made it. And the thing is Bird just ran off after that. He would cuss you during the game, but after he abused somebody, he would just walk away. He was also famous for spitting. Bird spit on fans in San Antonio and got fined. He was an a-hole.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Kev there is more than the interview. They have the microphone down on the court and a camera on Bird and McDaniel when Bird was cussing him and vice versa. Bird said I am going to shoot a bleepin 3 on you from right here you bleep. And McDaniel bleepity bleeped back. and bird took the inbounds pass and shot the 3 right where he had pointed and made it. And the thing is Bird just ran off after that. He would cuss you during the game, but after he abused somebody, he would just walk away. He was also famous for spitting. Bird spit on fans in San Antonio and got fined. He was an a-hole.

how many of his peers had no respect for him? maybe 1 or 2

Originally Posted by T3B

how many of his peers had no respect for him? maybe 1 or 2

As a basketball player I have ultimate respect. Jordan, and Magic Johnson also claim he was the best team player of all time.

But have you seen what the SOB has done with his daughter? Not a family man by any means and just not a nice guy. At least Michael took care of his offspring and cares about them.

So I loved his basketball prowess. But I despise him. I dont see how any man could just blow off his daughter like this guy. Hate to be judgemental, but thats why I like guys such as David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Their family comes first. And that may also be why they will never reach the level of guys like Bird.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

As a basketball player I have ultimate respect. Jordan, and Magic Johnson also claim he was the best team player of all time.

But have you seen what the SOB has done with his daughter? Not a family man by any means and just not a nice guy. At least Michael took care of his offspring and cares about them.

So I loved his basketball prowess. But I despise him. I dont see how any man could just blow off his daughter like this guy. Hate to be judgemental, but thats why I like guys such as David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Their family comes first. And that may also be why they will never reach the level of guys like Bird.

I am not saying he is the best human being to walk the face of the earth. I know about his daughter Corrie, but as most people, am unaware of the full story involved.

[GPK]

Pat, again, you need to understand that the circumstances surrounding the situation. I do find it funny though that you fail to mention the 2 kids he has with his wife now were both ADOPTED...meaning he took in two kids that someone else did not want. Still a bad family man Pat?

Originally Posted by T3B

I am not saying he is the best human being to walk the face of the earth. I know about his daughter Corrie, but as most people, am unaware of the full story involved.

And we never know the whole story of anyones life. I just dont like what I have read... at all. Now I did see him spit on the fans in San Antonio. But we have some a-holes fans that were probably cussing him. Other guys seemed to take the crap lots better than Bird and refrained from spitting.

At least he did not fertilize half the female population in the U.S. like Shawn Kemp. All I know about Kemp is what I read. I dont know the whole story there either. But I can make a judgement that Kemp did not help in controlling world population growth. Heck he may be a heck of a good dad.

But I digress. I just like people that are good at what they do and SEEM like good people. I like Tiger Woods and Roger Federer a heck of a lot. I have read a lot of good things about them. But heck, they may be real jerks to the wife and girlfriend also.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pgardn

And we never know the whole story of anyones life. I just dont like what I have read... at all. Now I did see him spit on the fans in San Antonio. But we have some a-holes fans that were probably cussing him. Other guys seemed to take the crap lots better than Bird and refrained from spitting.

At least he did not fertilize half the female population in the U.S. like Shawn Kemp. All I know about Kemp is what I read. I dont know the whole story there either. But I can make a judgement that Kemp did not help in controlling world population growth. Heck he may be a heck of a good dad.

But I digress. I just like people that are good at what they do and SEEM like good people. I like Tiger Woods and Roger Federer a heck of a lot. I have read a lot of good things about them. But heck, they may be real jerks to the wife and girlfriend also.

fair enough...it's just like me hearing the behind the scenes things about Phil Mickelson make me dislike him...

Originally Posted by T3B

fair enough...it's just like me hearing the behind the scenes things about Phil Mickelson make me dislike him...

Think the Cats out of the bag with Phil.
My brother in AZ said some stuff is loose.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on man. Lebron is very good, but he has a long, long way to go to be included in this conversation. Time will tell if he should be, but it's an insult to Bird, Jordan, Wilt and all of the others to put Lebron in there.

Lebron is very good. He is as physically talented as any player to ever play. But that does not put one in the elite company of the real players. Julius Erving has been mentioned maybe one time in this entire thread...and he has a championship. Lebron could be Dr. J maybe...