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Old 01-28-2007, 11:25 AM
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I thought Icy Atlantic had a pretty bad trip; got no room until the bitter end and still only lost by a little.

I thought Go Between's trip was MUCH tougher. While Icy Atlantic may have had to wait for room he also saved all the ground while not only was Go Between wide he was also steadied, while wide, on the far turn.

If you think Icy Atlantic ran well then what did you think of May Night's trip?
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:30 AM
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Andy, I'm trying to figure out if May Night got stuck inside of Memorette, or did Gomez just run out of horse, and that's why he couldn't get through? When he stayed inside, and began to swing out at the top of the stretch, I thought he would win by open lengths.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:34 AM
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Andy, I'm trying to figure out if May Night got stuck inside of Memorette, or did Gomez just run out of horse, and that's why he couldn't get through? When he stayed inside, and began to swing out at the top of the stretch, I thought he would win by open lengths.
I agree, it's confusing, and one could say she just didn't have enough horse to explode through the possible hole. But, she may have been intimidated and never really had clear room. It's a debatable situation.

I suppose she not that good and considering she saved all the ground she was hardly impressive either way. Why was Durkin all worked up about her break? She bobbled very slightly and he delivered a monologue as though she broke five slow.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:35 AM
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They both had bad trips, however I dont think any horse in the field had a worse trip than Lava Man, he lost a ton of ground going wide and was still under mild urging to win. Hes a better grass horse.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:38 AM
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They both had bad trips, however I dont think any horse in the field had a worse trip than Lava Man, he lost a ton of ground going wide and was still under mild urging to win. Hes a better grass horse.
I'll have to beg to disagree. I thought Lava Man had an absolutely perfect trip and dominated a very weak field. While it might be entertaining to see him take on some tough turf horses, or even decent ones, I think he's a better horse on dirt.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:42 AM
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The price on Icy Atlantic was insane. One of the keys to winning at this game is to find reasons to go back in a horse's PPs. Isn't being a rabbit a pretty darn good reason? I never thought he could beat Lava Man, but certainly the rest.
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:53 PM
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I'll have to beg to disagree. I thought Lava Man had an absolutely perfect trip and dominated a very weak field. While it might be entertaining to see him take on some tough turf horses, or even decent ones, I think he's a better horse on dirt.
In my opinion the Lava Man you saw yesterday was what you could call "Dull". He hasn't been showing the normal intrest in his works lately. That's the reason I took a shot at beating him in this race.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:15 PM
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In my opinion the Lava Man you saw yesterday was what you could call "Dull". He hasn't been showing the normal intrest in his works lately. That's the reason I took a shot at beating him in this race.
Not knocking your comment about him appearing "dull". But i would assume that the old guy is getting smart enough to know that the morning works are just that. Nothing to get pumped up about without the race atmosphere of the afternoon.
I remember when Tiznow just didnt give a crap about training anymore. And this was just weeks prior to the BC. He gave McCarron and Robbins heart failure a few times refusing to work.
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:25 PM
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I have seen alot of Lava Man and when he came out to the saddle ring he didn't go up on his toes and he always does. The referance to being dull is just that, he wasn't sharp yesterday and still managed to win.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:37 AM
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I thought Go Between's trip was MUCH tougher. While Icy Atlantic may have had to wait for room he also saved all the ground while not only was Go Between wide he was also steadied, while wide, on the far turn.

If you think Icy Atlantic ran well then what did you think of May Night's trip?

Go Between's trip wasn't the best, but I was busy watching Icy Atlantic (in fact I though he wasn't going to be in the number at the top of the stretch) but once he found room I though his kick was impressive.

I really have no opinion on May Night's trip. Nothing caught my eye (doesn't mean nothing happened). Reading the chart it insinuated the horse had a rail trip and "flattened out" in the stretch.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:22 PM
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I thought Go Between's trip was MUCH tougher. While Icy Atlantic may have had to wait for room he also saved all the ground while not only was Go Between wide he was also steadied, while wide, on the far turn.

If you think Icy Atlantic ran well then what did you think of May Night's trip?
May Nights trip was good until the field turned for home. The hole disappeared and I believe she got bumped by the winner. Not only that but there were horses in front of her so she was locked in really w/nowhere to go.
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