Santa Anita Race 7 DQ

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Honu

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(and overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(an overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

One of the announcers though freely admitted he never wants them to take a horse down. Not saying that it was the right call, I think it could have gone either way, but that announcer not wanting him to come down shouldn't really be used to build your case.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I also am tired of them talking to the jocks involved.You have such a difference in the ability to b.s. in the situation.Guys like Bailey and Gomez seem to be able to talk stewards into anything.I rarely see some riders get any break at all from the stewards.For instance,when Espinoza is the one who fouls,I rarely see that guy get out of it.They really seem to despise that guy.Again,all subjective stuff(language/argumentative skills etc.)

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(an overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

I understand your frustration.

The human element will never change. Hell Zito was pissed 2 weeks ago at gulfstream,but... Happens all the time in Life period. It is what it is. Sometimes we're left to suck on it. Does not make it right but its been that way for along time......

[SCUDSBROTHER]

There is some bad blood etc, between one of the stewards,and Paasch.So much so that the steward in question looked down to see how Paasch reacted when it was announced that the horse was coming down.He told Paasch that he remembered him from 20 years earlier(when Paasch had an argument with a security guard.)This thing has gotten pretty ugly.