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Old 01-24-2007, 10:28 PM
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I just did some more "research". There hasn't been an "E" winner since Exterminator in 1918. No wonder Easy Goer couldn't get it done!

Northern Dancer (1964) was the last "N" and Omaha (1935) was the last "O".

Needles was the only other "N" in the entire history of the Derby. If the "B" curse is broken again, I'll start touting the "N" curse. Or maybe I'll look for "double qualifiers", namely, a horse whose 2-part name begins with both "N" and "B".

Hint: I'm not a big fan of either dosage or the RAN curse.

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Old 01-24-2007, 10:31 PM
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I had it somewhere, but do not anymore......
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:58 PM
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If you don't play "angles" on a $5000 Mcl, why would you worry about them for the Derby? The best way to make a profit on the Derby is to cap it like you would any other race.
Trust your skills as a capper......not some crazy "angles."
After all.....didn't one of the "angles" have something to do with it being impossible to win off a 5-week layoff? How did that one turn out?
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:10 PM
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Nobody's playing angles, they're just fun bits of information on the biggest American horse race.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:35 PM
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Here's a copy of Somer's derby angles that I found:



Here are the 15 angles for selecting the Derby winner:
1) Do not bet a gelding to win the Derby
2) Do not bet a horse that didn't have a prep race in April.
3) Don't bet any horse with fewer than 3 prep races since January 1st.
4) Don't bet a horse with fewer than 5 life time starts.
5) Don't bet any horse that hasn't had at least one prep race of 8f or longer.
6) Don't bet a foreign-based horse to win the Derby.
7) Don't bety any horse that didn't start at two.
8) Don't bet any "Late Nominee" to the race.
9) Don't bet a horse with a DI over 4.00 or a CD over 1.00.
10) Don't bet a horse with fewer than 16 points in DP, prefer at least 18.
11) Don't bet a horse with RAN Curse.
12) Don't bet winner of BCJ to win the Derby.
13) Don't bet a horse that finished out of the money in last prep.
14) Don't bet a horse with Damascus in sire's sire line to win Derby
15) Don't bet a horse that failed to finish in the top 4 in one of the following preps: Florida Derby, Arkansas Derby, Santa Anita Derby, Wood, Blue Grass, Spiral.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:05 AM
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Excellent! That's it exactly.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:13 AM
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A little on color:

Different color horses that have won the Derby.
Bay - 47
Chestnut - 43
Dark Bay/Brown - 8 Gray - 5
Black - 4
Roan - 2
Gray/Roan - 2
Winning Colors (1988) is the only roan to win the Derby.
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