CONTESSA: "..wanted to throw up"

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

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Are you ok?

Yeah, why? It was just two simple questions that you're avoiding answering.

[cmorioles]

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, a 3 to 5 shot should be ridden differently than your average horse. Two words...AVOID TROUBLE.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, a 3 to 5 shot should be ridden differently than your average horse. Two words...AVOID TROUBLE.

simply becuase theyre 3-5? like youve never saw a 3-5 shot that had no business being those odds

[cmorioles]

There are some 3 to 5s that are better than others, no doubt. Still, you are most likely sitting on the best horse by a lot at 3 to 5, and don't need to work out inventive trips to win. If the horse is a bad 3 to 5, it probably won't win with a perfect trip.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, a 3 to 5 shot should be ridden differently than your average horse. Two words...AVOID TROUBLE.

Of course you're right, and anyone that has talked extensively to riders, which I have, knows that one of the toughest things about riding big favorites ( which obviously they would like to always do ) is making sure the horse does not lose due to jockey error. A good rider knows when he may need to help his mount and when he can only hurt it.

To the person who suggests that all 3:5s aren't the same....obviously this is true but in general, the better a mount the less chances a rider should, and usually does, take.

[The Bid]

It was brutal. Montolvo did it earlier in the week at Tampa in a five horse field. Sat off a three horse speed dual then tried to come up the rail, got shut off, pinned in, and finished third. The ride in NY was horrific as well.

What do you say to a trainer in that situation? Sorry doesnt cut it.

[brianwspencer]

If Ted Ginn Jr. had been riding, the horse would have won going away.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Of course you're right, and anyone that has talked extensively to riders, which I have, knows that one of the toughest things about riding big favorites ( which obviously they would like to always do ) is making sure the horse does not lose due to jockey error. A good rider knows when he may need to help his mount and when he can only hurt it.

To the person who suggests that all 3:5s aren't the same....obviously this is true but in general, the better a mount the less chances a rider should, and usually does, take.

Oh, let's not get the priorities mixed up, he talks to tons of jockeys...lol

Sorry, after your post to me about Matz the other day, I couldn't help myself.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Oh, let's not get the priorities mixed up, he talks to tons of jockeys...lol

Sorry, after your post to me about Matz the other day, I couldn't help myself.

UMM he actually DOES talk to tons of jockeys...
your post the other day was about a friend who asked a question of matz...not quite the same thing.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

UMM he actually DOES talk to tons of jockeys...
your post the other day was about a friend who asked a question of matz...not quite the same thing.

And I don't know anyone or talk to anyone in the business...lol.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

And I don't know anyone or talk to anyone in the business...lol.

I don't know or care who you know...I'm quite sure that you have the same opinion of my contacts...
however i can assure you that BTW has more, and that they are legitimate and exist at all levels of the game.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

And I don't know anyone or talk to anyone in the business...lol.

This is completely irrelevent. You made an idiotic remark about my talking to jockeys, as if to suggest I was lying, which was completely out of line. Nobody referenced, or cares, as to whether or not you know anybody in this game.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Oh, let's not get the priorities mixed up, he talks to tons of jockeys...lol

Sorry, after your post to me about Matz the other day, I couldn't help myself.

Are you honestly this clueless? Do you think because I don't litter my posts with names that I don't know a LOT of people in the industry?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Are you honestly this clueless? Do you think because I don't litter my posts with names that I don't know a LOT of people in the industry?

No, I am not clueless. Not at all. In fact, I will PM you to show you that. And remember our PM conversation about Flower Alley a little while back? That should have shown you that I'm not clueless.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Yeah, why? It was just two simple questions that you're avoiding answering.

Disagreeing on this issue doesn't mean I don't like you. If I didn't like you I would take my toys and go home. I'd also probably throw a few and sit on the front porch and pout.