They'll be Hanging From the Rafters at the Big A Friday

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Gander

This distance is perfect for him and these arent very good horses.

If this race was any farther, it may be harder for him to win. The pace would be slower. People confuse closers with having more success the farther they go. Thats not right at all. Jazil will get a nice pace to run into and Jara obviously knows this horse. While he may be better next time out, he is good enough on talent alone to run these down and by open lengths.

This is a very weak field for his return.

The part in bold is excellent and in my opinion, exactly right. The second part about him being good enough is, again, in my opinion, totally wrong. This is one of the worst horses ever to win a TC race and he's totally overrated. He's got no speed whatsoever and I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that he'll never win another grade one race. Actually, I'll take it a step further and say he'll never win another stakes race of any grade. By midyear, when he's retired, he'll still just have the same number of wins on his record that he's got now.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Am I the only one that saw the 2 horse stumble at the gate, get his legs under him, take the lead around the mile - 7/8th pole and hold it until he had nothing left while Jazil maintained a fairly constant pace the whole trip, closing in stretch down to the final 1/16th to within 2 lengths?

Not making excuses, but even McLaighlin said he needs more distance - from NYRA website:

>>> “We anticipated this a little bit. You have to be concerned with the tight turns and backing up to a mile and a sixteenth. He wants farther; we know that."<<<

This race goes 1 1/8 instead of 1 1/16th and you've got a different winner. Not that that's anything to celebrate.

But this logic that Jazil would have fared worse going longer is incomprehensable...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that he'll never win another grade one race.

Not much of a tree you're venturing onto there Captain Obvious.

I also think Jazil is a better horse than you think. Grade 1? He's a dog...probably less likely than Strong Contender....but he has an outside shot. The reason your other bold prediction MAY come true is he may make too many starts where he doesn't belong. But I think if given a fair shot in reasonable starts he will surprise you.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Not much of a tree you're venturing onto there Captain Obvious.

I also think Jazil is a better horse than you think. Grade 1? He's a dog...probably less likely than Strong Contender....but he has an outside shot. The reason your other bold prediction MAY come true is he may make too many starts where he doesn't belong. But I think if given a fair shot in reasonable starts he will surprise you.

I realized the first part was too easy so that's why I added the second. I don't think he has any shot to win though because I don't see them as the type to take steps backwards with him once they take him back to stakes competition. I think he'll either race in big races and lose and then be retired or he'll race in big races and lose and keep running. But I don't see them running him in cheap stakes races.