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[Konk]

So you really think that kind of program would have prevented this lone nutjob from cracking and going on a spree?

And how many years until these programs yield results?
And who protects the public in the meantime?

Every police department has a mayor and some kind of council, they don't operate in a vacuum. Isn't it the job of the elected officials to ensure their police operate fairly and effectively?

We have been defunding since 2020.....can you point out any success storiies, drops in violent crime rates......

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/defund...pened-n1278506

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Konk

So you really think that kind of program would have prevented this lone nutjob from cracking and going on a spree?

And how many years until these programs yield results?
And who protects the public in the meantime?

Every police department has a mayor and some kind of council, they don't operate in a vacuum. Isn't it the job of the elected officials to ensure their police operate fairly and effectively?

We have been defunding since 2020.....can you point out any success storiies, drops in violent crime rates......

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/defund...pened-n1278506

Hard to take the rest of the post serious after your first question

[Konk]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Hard to take the rest of the post serious after your first question

Why?
Do you think it would?
You ask Freddie what his solution is, what's yours?

All you seem to do is offer nothing but anti-conservative rhetoric.
Surely a smart guy like you can do better.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Konk

Why?
Do you think it would?
You ask Freddie what his solution is, what's yours?

All you seem to do is offer nothing but anti-conservative rhetoric.
Surely a smart guy like you can do better.

I’ve offered up what I’d do many times already in this thread.

I didn’t think wanting background checks, wait times, etc was anti-conservative rhetoric. To me it’s common sense.

You know defunding wouldn’t have stopped this. That wasn’t the point. Surely a smart guy like you can do better.

[Konk]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I’ve offered up what I’d do many times already in this thread.

I didn’t think wanting background checks, wait times, etc was anti-conservative rhetoric. To me it’s common sense.

You know defunding wouldn’t have stopped this. That wasn’t the point. Surely a smart guy like you can do better.

Yup.
Background checks are commonsense.
Now tell what do we do about the tremdouse number of guns out sold illegally, or stolen?

Gun controll alone won't stop mass shootings.
Defunding now 2 years old.....where are the successes?
What is the point of defunding if it isn't working?

Try engaging in conversation instead of bluster.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Konk

Yup.
Background checks are commonsense.
Now tell what do we do about the tremdouse number of guns out sold illegally, or stolen?

Gun controll alone won't stop mass shootings.
Defunding now 2 years old.....where are the successes?
What is the point of defunding if it isn't working?

Try engaging in conversation instead of bluster.

I always like when you get frustrated. Your spelling gets worse and you start to make even less sense than usual.

No sh.it gun control alone won't stop mass shootings. It's a step. There is no easy fix.

The point of gun control is to make it more difficult for mass shootings. To make it more difficult for people with mental illness to get a gun. Will it totally stop someone who wants a gun bad enough from getting one? Of course not. But it's better than doing nothing.

At some point we need to address the mental illness problem in this country. And people need to be way more vigilant in reporting crazy things people say or do. It takes a village, right? Well this kid left hints. Unless I've missed something, most of his hints were ignored.

THis is a broken country. I'd rather live here, than somewhere else, but it's a mess. Everything is partisan and people have lost their way. The politicians just make it worse. We have no one to trust. No one to count on. EVeryone is corrupt or don't have the best interest of the people when they make decisions.

What is your solution exactly?

[Dahoss]

Reports today that the police waited in the hallway for a tactical team and keys to enter the classroom because it was locked.

Talk about completely useless.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Konk

Yup.
Background checks are commonsense.
Now tell what do we do about the tremdouse number of guns out sold illegally, or stolen?

Gun controll alone won't stop mass shootings.
Defunding now 2 years old.....where are the successes?
What is the point of defunding if it isn't working?

Try engaging in conversation instead of bluster.

"Defunding now 2 years old"

Don't be intellectually dishonest with us. Two years ago this was talked about. Budgets for 2020 where already done and since it was mid year budgets for 2021 were already being worked on. That is how things work Tom. If you disagree please provide evidence of towns who implemented this in June 2020 and we are two years into implementation.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Konk

So you really think that kind of program would have prevented this lone nutjob from cracking and going on a spree?

If they included educational programs that stem bullying of those with speech defects (in this case) or provide outreach for those traumatized by bullying, yes. Quite possibly.

But it's hard to encourage an environment of empathy when the mocking of the physically, mentally or emotionally challenged is being promoted, encouraged or endorsed. Same would be true of racism.