Secret Oath

Originally Posted by Dahoss

This is either the most elaborate troll job of all time or the worst way to try and get a job I’ve ever seen.

The funny thing is, what you’re really trying to do usurp Stabile. Which, as we know is something you’re notorious for.

But doesn’t that kind of make your “defending” of him make no sense?

Either way, I can’t imagine Tom Durkin doing all this schtick. He let his calls do the talking. He didn’t feel the need to pander and self promote non stop and everyday.

Imagine Durkin getting on a message board and telling people he thought he was currently calling better than at any point in his career? Imagine Durkin saying his calls have been clear, concise, accurate and exciting?

We get it Vic. You think a lot of yourself. Maybe if you took a break from telling everyone how great you are, others might feel the same way?

Just a thought.

One of the many things that make Tom Durkin the GOAT. Is he's much too smart to ever get involved in social media.

I on the other hand am not.

I've always enjoyed the banter.

Tina thinks I have a screw loose. She's probably right.

Since this thread is supposed to be about Secret Oath.

What do you think about the rider switch from Contreras to Saez?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Since this thread is supposed to be about Secret Oath.

What do you think about the rider switch from Contreras to Saez?

Lukas made the switch one race too late.

Nothing against Contreras, but he's not Saez.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Lukas made the switch one race too late.

Nothing against Contreras, but he's not Saez.

Take off a guy who had just won 3 in a row on her? Two of them Stakes. And worked her every time she breezed for three months?

I don't know any trainer that would make that change.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

Take off a guy who had just won 3 in a row on her? Two of them Stakes. And worked her every time she breezed for three months?

I don't know any trainer that would make that change.

Steve Asmussen did with Echo Zulu.

After her race in the Honeybee I suggested right here on this board that her rider would eventually get her beat. He tried to get too cute in the Honeybee and almost got her in trouble. Now, I don’t think she was ever winning the Arkansas Derby but his inability to maintain position and getting beat to two different spots, coupled with the slingshot move prevented her from running 2nd IMO.

She deserves a top rider. Contreras isn’t one. It’s an easy choice.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Steve Asmussen did with Echo Zulu.

After her race in the Honeybee I suggested right here on this board that her rider would eventually get her beat. He tried to get too cute in the Honeybee and almost got her in trouble. Now, I don’t think she was ever winning the Arkansas Derby but his inability to maintain position and getting beat to two different spots, coupled with the slingshot move prevented her from running 2nd IMO.

She deserves a top rider. Contreras isn’t one. It’s an easy choice.

Wayne's attitude has always been correct. He doesn't owe Contreras anything. He was always going to be one mediocre ride away from getting replaced. Why shouldn't he have been?

It's not like he has given Ethereal Road good rides in his last two races either.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Steve Asmussen did with Echo Zulu.

After her race in the Honeybee I suggested right here on this board that her rider would eventually get her beat. He tried to get too cute in the Honeybee and almost got her in trouble. Now, I don’t think she was ever winning the Arkansas Derby but his inability to maintain position and getting beat to two different spots, coupled with the slingshot move prevented her from running 2nd IMO.

She deserves a top rider. Contreras isn’t one. It’s an easy choice.

I'm not disagreeing with the change now.

I'm saying that before the Arkansas Derby the was NO reason to make a change.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

before the Arkansas Derby the was NO reason to make a change.

...other than giving the horse the best opportunity to earn points towards the Derby with an eye towards starting in the Derby.

Might not have been a popular move had he done so, but John Sadler did the same with Rock Your World last year in the big race itself.

Of course, that move might have actually been part of Sadler's grand plan of derailing the rest of the horse's career. If so, it was a master stroke given Joel Rosario's complete ineptness.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I'm not disagreeing with the change now.

I'm saying that before the Arkansas Derby the was NO reason to make a change.

Actually, there was. If I owned her, I would have replaced the rider before he cost her a win. There's a lot of money at stake. It was nice of Wayne not to, but the actual right thing to do was to have moved on.

I get that it's unfair to Contreras in that situation, but every owner has the right to get the rider he or she is most comfortable with.