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Old 01-31-2022, 11:51 AM
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Is Terry Finley actually King Glorious?
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Old 01-31-2022, 01:42 PM
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I think TAP is winning at 40+% at GP a vast improvement from his typical Florida Feast. The Pegasus told us nothing about Life is Good the only time he hooked a horse of G1 quality he ran great yet in defeat. Pletcher is a serious guy and a phenomenal trainer. Life is Good is the best horse he ever trained? I thought the MRNA vaccine protected the backstretch workers from Stevensitis? Apparently, there was a break thru case? Should I contact the CDC? I passed by TAP on Saturday should I quarantine?
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Old 01-31-2022, 02:09 PM
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Not sure, but I'm still convinced that someone else posts under Freddy's username.

Biggest turnaround since Knicks Go...
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Old 01-31-2022, 02:27 PM
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Not sure, but I'm still convinced that someone else posts under Freddy's username.

Biggest turnaround since Knicks Go...
Andy uses my login as a burner account on dark days. That is between us
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Old 01-31-2022, 02:31 PM
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All kidding aside, with the way the track in Dubai plays they should be making plans to send Life Is Good there right now.

That would give him plenty of time to recover for a grueling fall campaign of 2 or 3 races.
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Old 01-31-2022, 03:14 PM
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All kidding aside, with the way the track in Dubai plays they should be making plans to send Life Is Good there right now.

That would give him plenty of time to recover for a grueling fall campaign of 2 or 3 races.
The rumor I heard a lot from a few reasonably intelligent people, Sadler is taking Flight Risk to the Middle East? As my grandmother used to say in "rich or poor it's nice to have money"
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Old 01-31-2022, 03:48 PM
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The rumor I heard a lot from a few reasonably intelligent people, Sadler is taking Flight Risk to the Middle East? As my grandmother used to say in "rich or poor it's nice to have money"
Flightline is running in the San Carlos at Santa Anita early March
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Old 01-31-2022, 04:42 PM
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Flightline is running in the San Carlos at Santa Anita early March
Maybe he means Flight Risk, the 8 year old that finished last in a $10,000 claimer at Parx in November.
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Old 01-31-2022, 03:18 PM
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All kidding aside, with the way the track in Dubai plays they should be making plans to send Life Is Good there right now.

That would give him plenty of time to recover for a grueling fall campaign of 2 or 3 races.
It's a lot of dough to leave on the table for a public workout if they don't
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abaan should be on a plane to Dubai.
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Old 01-31-2022, 04:23 PM
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abaan should be on a plane to Dubai.
Yeah he’s got a big shot at running like 12th if he went
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Old 01-31-2022, 06:17 PM
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Is Terry Finley actually King Glorious?
No because I would never include Rombauer and good horse in the same sentence. I also am not all that big on Hot Rod Charlie, Mandaloun, or Midnight Bourbon. All nice horses but I don’t believe they are in the same league as Life is Good and Flightline. I don’t think Essential Quality was either. Hell, he lost to Medina’s Spirit twice and we saw how Life is Good toyed with him. Since I’m not in the camp that says the only way a horse can be considered good is if he excels at 10f and faces 20 horse fields and runs 15 times a year, I’m just going to be forced to believe that Life is Good and Flightline are good horses and if they only run 4-5 times this year, I’ll enjoy those 4-5 races much more than watching inferior horses run 10 times.
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Old 02-01-2022, 07:22 AM
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No because I would never include Rombauer and good horse in the same sentence. I also am not all that big on Hot Rod Charlie, Mandaloun, or Midnight Bourbon. All nice horses but I don’t believe they are in the same league as Life is Good and Flightline. I don’t think Essential Quality was either. Hell, he lost to Medina’s Spirit twice and we saw how Life is Good toyed with him. Since I’m not in the camp that says the only way a horse can be considered good is if he excels at 10f and faces 20 horse fields and runs 15 times a year, I’m just going to be forced to believe that Life is Good and Flightline are good horses and if they only run 4-5 times this year, I’ll enjoy those 4-5 races much more than watching inferior horses run 10 times.
We’ve been over this before but I’m curious…are your favorite pro sports teams the Yankees, Cowboys, Bull or Lakers and Notre Dame for college football?
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Old 02-01-2022, 10:09 AM
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We’ve been over this before but I’m curious…are your favorite pro sports teams the Yankees, Cowboys, Bull or Lakers and Notre Dame for college football?
Yankees
Cowboys
Mavericks
Duke basketball
Miami football

Not exactly a list of front runners.
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Old 02-01-2022, 10:18 AM
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Yankees
Cowboys
Mavericks
Duke basketball
Miami football

Not exactly a list of front runners.
LOL...of course it is. Any list that starts with the Yankees and Cowboys is a frontrunner list.

The only outlier there is the Mavericks. I'm sure when you started liking those teams, they were all the best.

It's not a knock, it just explains a lot when it comes to your racing opinions. You're more a style guy. You prefer a flashy performance over anything.
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Old 02-01-2022, 02:59 PM
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LOL...of course it is. Any list that starts with the Yankees and Cowboys is a frontrunner list.

The only outlier there is the Mavericks. I'm sure when you started liking those teams, they were all the best.

It's not a knock, it just explains a lot when it comes to your racing opinions. You're more a style guy. You prefer a flashy performance over anything.
Well, I grew up in Memphis and we had no pro teams. Started watching sports in 1980 when I was 9. Dallas was the closest thing for us so I became a Cowboys fan. First basketball game and football games I ever went to were in Dallas. Liked the Yankees cause of Reggie Jackson since we share the same first name. Miami, yeah started liking them cause they were good. Started liking Duke in 1984 and they didn’t win a title til 1991.
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Old 02-01-2022, 08:02 AM
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No because I would never include Rombauer and good horse in the same sentence. I also am not all that big on Hot Rod Charlie, Mandaloun, or Midnight Bourbon. All nice horses but I don’t believe they are in the same league as Life is Good and Flightline. I don’t think Essential Quality was either. Hell, he lost to Medina’s Spirit twice and we saw how Life is Good toyed with him. Since I’m not in the camp that says the only way a horse can be considered good is if he excels at 10f and faces 20 horse fields and runs 15 times a year, I’m just going to be forced to believe that Life is Good and Flightline are good horses and if they only run 4-5 times this year, I’ll enjoy those 4-5 races much more than watching inferior horses run 10 times.
Nobody is in the camp that "great" horses have to run 10f's and face 20 horse fields to be outstanding. There have been plenty of 7 horse fields that proved to be great. You can have a super field of 5—quality, not quantity. Nobody is suggesting Flight Risk, and Life is Good aren't very fast horses. They are very good. The point is you don't know enough about them to suggest they are great. Life is Good has been matched by an equally fast horse, albeit not one made for two turns. Flight Risk has been a show horse and has collected blue ribbons.
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Nobody is in the camp that "great" horses have to run 10f's and face 20 horse fields to be outstanding. There have been plenty of 7 horse fields that proved to be great. You can have a super field of 5—quality, not quantity. Nobody is suggesting Flight Risk, and Life is Good aren't very fast horses. They are very good. The point is you don't know enough about them to suggest they are great. Life is Good has been matched by an equally fast horse, albeit not one made for two turns. Flight Risk has been a show horse and has collected blue ribbons.
But that’s the thing. I’m not putting them with the all-time greats at this point. That list belongs to those that have proven themselves time and again at various distances, on different surfaces, against better horses. Unfortunately, the way the sport is going now, it will be extremely difficult for any horse to prove his greatness going forward. They race so sparingly. There are tons of different races that allow them to avoid each other so much. They don’t carry heavy weights anymore. It’s hard. So more and more often we are left to speculate on who the best horses are instead of actually seeing it proven.

You brought up Life is Good’s loss to Jackie’s Warrior. I think races like the Pegasus only enhance how good a race that was. Jackie’s Warrior is the likely champion sprinter and for Life is Good to be a horse that’s good enough to beat the HOY at 9f, to come off a long layoff and face an in-form champion at the champs best distance and damn near beat him is an added feather in his cap in my opinion, not a knock.
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Nobody is in the camp that "great" horses have to run 10f's and face 20 horse fields to be outstanding. There have been plenty of 7 horse fields that proved to be great. You can have a super field of 5—quality, not quantity. Nobody is suggesting Flight Risk, and Life is Good aren't very fast horses. They are very good. The point is you don't know enough about them to suggest they are great. Life is Good has been matched by an equally fast horse, albeit not one made for two turns. Flight Risk has been a show horse and has collected blue ribbons.
Get with it, Freddy.

Who needs Easy Goer, Sunday Silence, Prized, and Hawkster when you got King Glorious and Houston?

Who needs Real Quiet, Victory Gallop, and Coronado’s Quest when you got Indian Charlie and Mazel Trick?

Who needs Buckpasser, Mr. Right, Amberoid, and Pretense when you got Graustark?

Who needs Arts and Letters, Ack Ack, Dike, and Al Hattab when you got Majestic Prince and Reviewer?

Who needs Shackleford, Fort Larned, Stay Thirsty, or Mucho Macho Man when you got Uncle Mo?

Who needs Afleet Alex, Flower Alley, Invasor, and Premium Tap when you got Bellamy Road and Roman Ruler?

Who needs Pleasant Tap, Unbridled, Summer Squall, and In Excess when you got Grand Canyon and Red Ransom?

Who needs Silver Charm, Free House, Touch Gold, and Awesome Again when you got Pulpit and Tale of the Cat?
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Get with it, Freddy.

Who needs Easy Goer, Sunday Silence, Prized, and Hawkster when you got King Glorious and Houston?

Who needs Real Quiet, Victory Gallop, and Coronado’s Quest when you got Indian Charlie and Mazel Trick?

Who needs Buckpasser, Mr. Right, Amberoid, and Pretense when you got Graustark?

Who needs Arts and Letters, Ack Ack, Dike, and Al Hattab when you got Majestic Prince and Reviewer?

Who needs Shackleford, Fort Larned, Stay Thirsty, or Mucho Macho Man when you got Uncle Mo?

Who needs Afleet Alex, Flower Alley, Invasor, and Premium Tap when you got Bellamy Road and Roman Ruler?

Who needs Pleasant Tap, Unbridled, Summer Squall, and In Excess when you got Grand Canyon and Red Ransom?

Who needs Silver Charm, Free House, Touch Gold, and Awesome Again when you got Pulpit and Tale of the Cat?
The advent of 6,12, and 20 million dollar races is perfect for avoiding competition. You go here, and I will go there. Moneyball Sportsmanship at its finest.
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