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11-14-2021, 10:13 PM
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The horse was utterly impossible no matter how you look at it....and that includes sheets players. He likely freaked on the soft turf. There's no real explanation....other than a ridiculous redboard.
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11-15-2021, 05:34 AM
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Here's another piece from TG.. Sire Profile (TGI = Thoro-Graph Index, average fig of progeny by sire at age 2, 3, 4, 5+). Blame progeny keep improving with age (15.5, 11.25, 9.5. 9.25) and this gelding is late in his 4yo year, about to turn 5. 
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11-15-2021, 05:36 AM
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Here's Mandate's full PP's as well.. One interesting side note to the effort that hasn't been discussed is that it came without Lasix, his first start ever without it.
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11-15-2021, 06:05 AM
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WO Autumn S (G2): Mighty Heart 91 (Dramedy) J. Carroll/P. Husbands
AQU Winter Memories S: Plum Ali 88 (First Samurai) C. Clement/M. Franco DMR Bob Hope S (G3): Messier - (Empire Maker) B. Baffert/F. Prat HAW Lightning Jet S: W W Cookie Monster - (Ghaaleb) S. Becker/V. Santiago
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11-15-2021, 06:50 AM
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Steve, have a heart. Cheating happens. The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. That normally happens after you hit rock bottom, like when your wife forgets to buy the Baileys Irish Cream for your morning coffee and you berate her for an hour(not that I have ever done that) or when some ridiculous horse freaks not just wins but runs extraordinary.
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11-15-2021, 08:27 AM
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Maybe he freaked on a soft turf. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that has happened. His three prior races on courses listed as good weren't strong, even arguably worse than his firm turf efforts, but a softer course like the one on Saturday may well have been much different and to his liking. Regardless, this is an inexplicable effort. To each their own, but I don't believe there is any logical handicapping argument for him, even after the race. Doesn't mean anything nefarious happened. Sometimes racing produces weird results. Sometimes late season turf courses are friendlier to different horses than summertime courses. Who knows.
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11-15-2021, 09:01 AM
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11-15-2021, 09:07 AM
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Freddy, can you help here?
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