so with saratoga coming up

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ontheoutside

i have a few questions
i go to saratoga maybe 30 to 35 times a year
i have a budget to start meet of about 10grand
and every year i walk out of there losing pretty much all of it

How much action do you put through the windows for an initial investment of $10,000? If you are generating $1,000,000 in churn, your strategy for improvement would be very different than if your churn was $40,000 for the meet.

Take a look at the types of bets being made and perhaps you will see leaks in your betting strategy as opposed to being a losing player on specific types of races.

For example, are you using structured horizontal tickets (A/B/C/X model) or a complete "box" of all horses (so-called "cave man tickets")? When you hit with your top choices, are you hitting the ticket multiple times or just once as you would with your lowest choices? Are you using the "all" button rather than cutting costs via clear outliers?

[ontheoutside]

dahoss you mentioned gate works
so
suppose i buy the program that they sell when entering the track i think it costs 5 bucks,, when looking at workouts,,,will it empahsas gate work? will i be able to ell if it was a gatw work or just s regular work? example
it might say 48.36 b so the b is for breeze
will it say 48.36 g for a gate work?

thats a interesting thought
2 or 3 gate works my thinking has been thats a good thing,, i never thought ur thinking
good sense there

and scotty yes im a sucker for pk 5 and pk 4 i usually spend betw 40 and 70 on a structured ticket

and i would say i push between 1500 and 2000 a day through the windows

and getting back to dehoss
i asked if the 5 dollar program lists the gate work
as compared to the daily racing form
i dont buy the form
but maybe i should to get tidbits like that gate work symbol

[Dahoss]

If the program you are talking about is Post Parade it lists gate works. It’s the “g.”

[ontheoutside]

what are the hot sires of today,, i know i hear into mischief,,,ive heard steve byk talk about constitution

i know kittens joy and english channell are turf

whats the [now] sprint sire these days
and dirt router sire these days?

i remember back in day more then ready java gold were mud and speightstown was sprint dont know if these still hold true

[Dahoss]

I don’t know. I don’t look at races that way.