CDI suspends Baffert 2 years in wake of split sample result

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by tector

It's a steep penalty, but if the sport is not going to enforce the drug rules it has it is going to be a PR disaster across the board--with the animal rights people (an ever broader class), bettors (who now have a huge menu of things to legally bet on), politicians, etc. I don't really see the alternative. Those who do tend to be way too close to the sport--they can't see how it looks outside our own circle.

You start listening to the fans in the stands you will be sitting with them soon enough

[moses]

Baffert’s attorney went on CNN and claimed he’s the Michael Jordan of the sport. CNN retorted that maybe he is actually the Jose Canseco of the sport. His attorney got dominated on there.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Baffert’s attorney went on CNN and claimed he’s the Michael Jordan of the sport. CNN retorted that maybe he is actually the Jose Canseco of the sport. His attorney got dominated on there.

Yeah I was shocked at how poorly he came across

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah I was shocked at how poorly he came across

I’ve seen some supposedly great attorneys look very mediocre when not in their wheelhouse. I’m guessing he’s very good at what he normally does but maybe not so good at public appearances when the interviewers aren’t so friendly.

[gamblin4ever]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You start listening to the fans in the stands you will be sitting with them soon enough

Without public confidence, there is no product. Not saying to listen to them, but the public needs to at least think that they are trying to clean up the sport. Just my opinion.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever

Without public confidence, there is no product. Not saying to listen to them, but the public needs to at least think that they are trying to clean up the sport. Just my opinion.

Public confidence? The friggin public has been betting Oscar, Scooter the Shooter, Servas, Michael Gill, and a cast of thousand REAL alchemists forever. Now lo and behold we need therapeutic medication pico gram police to clean up the sport? You want to clean up the criminals I TOTALLY get it and support it but I don't need people freaking out about nonsense overages that have absolutely nothing to do with hopping up stock. #FreeBB lol

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Public confidence? The friggin public has been betting Oscar, Scooter the Shooter, Servas, Michael Gill, and a cast of thousand REAL alchemists forever. Now lo and behold we need therapeutic medication pico gram police to clean up the sport? You want to clean up the criminals I TOTALLY get it and support it but I don't need people freaking out about nonsense overages that have absolutely nothing to do with hopping up stock. #FreeBB lol

What’s the right punishment for him Freddy?

Nothing?

You know it’s more than therapeutic stuff with Baffert. He might not turn claimers into world beaters but he’s had his fair share of performances that don’t pass the smell test. Look at how his horses ran Belmont day of 2017.

Remember it took the Feds to catch Servis and Navarro.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

What’s the right punishment for him Freddy?

Nothing?

You know it’s more than therapeutic stuff with Baffert. He might not turn claimers into world beaters but he’s had his fair share of performances that don’t pass the smell test. Look at how his horses ran Belmont day of 2017.

Remember it took the Feds to catch Servis and Navarro.

First of I am no lover of Baffert and I can sleep well if he never wins another race. The right punishment is whatever the punishment would be if Shug or H Graham would have been pegged no more no less within the guidelines specified in advance. Shug just had a positive in Indiana, this **** happens. I agree Double B is a more likely SPF 29000 user than either of the trainers above but that is NOT proof and so my subjective opinion of what is unprovable is irrelevant. You really think medina Spirit won the derby because he was high on some therapeutic common-ass medication? Or do the ends justify(excuse pun) the means and now that you busted him on a speeding ticket you lock him up as though it was attempted murder.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

First of I am no lover of Baffert and I can sleep well if he never wins another race. The right punishment is whatever the punishment would be if Shug or H Graham would have been pegged no more no less within the guidelines specified in advance. Shug just had a positive in Indiana, this **** happens. I agree Double B is a more likely SPF 29000 user than either of the trainers above but that is NOT proof and so my subjective opinion of what is unprovable is irrelevant. You really think medina Spirit won the derby because he was high on some therapeutic common-ass medication? Or do the ends justify(excuse pun) the means and now that you busted him on a speeding ticket you lock him up as though it was attempted murder.

Ive said multiple times the overage had nothing to do with Medina Spirit winning the Derby.

But Shug and Motion didn’t have an overage in the Oaks last year as well. They didn’t have another overage later in the year and 2 others overages earlier in the year at Oaklawn.

Shug and Graham didn’t have an overage with Justify in the SA Derby. They didn’t have 7 horses drop dead out of the blue.

Should I keep going?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Ive said multiple times the overage had nothing to do with Medina Spirit winning the Derby.

But Shug and Motion didn’t have an overage in the Oaks last year as well. They didn’t have another overage later in the year and 2 others overages earlier in the year at Oaklawn.

Shug and Graham didn’t have an overage with Justify in the SA Derby. They didn’t have 7 horses drop dead out of the blue.

Should I keep going?

If you suggesting that the state local and federal authorities have had ample circumstantial evidence to raid his barn a la what they did at Parx last week you will get no argument from me. We differ in as much as therapeutic picogram med overages are sloppy careless etc. they should be adjudicated as such nothing more not less.