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Old 05-18-2021, 11:43 AM
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Conclusion: the timing of taking action against both Rice & Baffert on 5/17/2021 can NOT be legitimately viewed as coincidental.
100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

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Old 05-18-2021, 11:47 AM
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100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.


Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.
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Old 05-18-2021, 11:58 AM
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Don’t confuse things with the truth here please.
My fault. I'm so shook by the news (via Iditarod sled delivery?) that Kenny Mayne is out at ESPN..
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:21 PM
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100% coincidental with the Rice ruling the culmination of years of investigation(s).

You can Listen to Alan Foreman on today's ATR (9:25-10:10) for further explanation of how these things work.


Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:40 PM
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Years of investigating? So they knew something was up and let it go on for years While they investigated ? shoulda called Mannix or Cannon.
Instead of just saying dumb sh.it over and over again why not read about the case and inform yourself?

You’re literally doing nothing all day except posting dumb sh.it. Are you allergic to facts?
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Old 05-18-2021, 09:41 PM
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Thanks for the entertainment.

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Old 05-18-2021, 09:52 PM
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First we need a new " face of horse racing" BB needs to disappear for a while. Stop talking and lay low. I don't hate him but I don't want to see or hear about him anymore for a while. I am glad they did it and ALL cheaters have to be outed from the tracks and their past suspensions should be easily accessible to the public / bettors so they can make the final call on whether to wager on their horses.

Pages like these are good but we need more transparency.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...tag/suspension
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/trainer-suspensions/
https://www.paulickreport.com/tag/drug-violations/

This is the kind of guy that should be the new "FOHR.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:30 AM
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The lengths people go to just not admit they were wrong is hilarious.

Of course Rice pulled off what she did with the help of people employed by NYRA. They were fired years ago. There is no connection to the two cases.

Sure their decision was made MUCH easier when Medina Spirit didn’t win. Who cares? The decision was made.

Imagine spending all of this time an energy to criticize an organization for doing the right thing. Meanwhile crickets about Pimlico and Stronach tracks in general who still aren’t allowing Jerry Hollendorfer to run horses there. But Baffert is fine.
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Old 05-19-2021, 09:18 AM
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I’m not even sure what you’re asking.

If they banned him a month from now I still wouldn’t think it was too long. Then again, I’m not looking for things to criticize NYRA about.

If Santa Anita banned him a month from now I wouldn’t think it was too long.
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Old 05-19-2021, 02:26 PM
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One could argue that NYRA took action too soon. The banned a trainer for an alleged medication violation in another jurisdiction.

The split sample has yet to be analyzed. Were it to return negative for betamethasone, the case in KY will be dropped. Would NYRA be in a vulnerable position if that takes place?

On the other side of the coin, is the action they took going to be particularly effective? What are they going to do if a horse like Charlatan shows up in the entry box with a different trainer?
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Old 05-19-2021, 02:31 PM
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One could argue that NYRA took action too soon. The banned a trainer for an alleged medication violation in another jurisdiction.

The split sample has yet to be analyzed. Were it to return negative for betamethasone, the case in KY will be dropped. Would NYRA be in a vulnerable position if that takes place?

On the other side of the coin, is the action they took going to be particularly effective? What are they going to do if a horse like Charlatan shows up in the entry box with a different trainer?
I assume they would likely lift the ban if the split sample comes back negative.
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Old 05-19-2021, 02:42 PM
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I assume they would likely lift the ban if the split sample comes back negative.
Of course; I was just trying to point out that they are going out on a limb to some extent.
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Old 05-19-2021, 03:08 PM
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Gotta say I am loving this. Supporting another jurisdictions ban. Can't run your horses with a beard. Owners can't be happy. All for what many are saying is a non performance enhancer. Is this Horse racings version of Al Capone being locked up for tax evasion?
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