Derby Aftermath

[Mike]

Should we just cave in and embrace this darker, seedier side of horse racing? Could producing a Narcos style Netflix series that depicts a Baffert-like trainer, high society clients and Arab sheiks create an explosion of interest in the game?

Why do we even think it will ever change. Baffert will win the Derby next year

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Mike

Should we just cave in and embrace this darker, seedier side of horse racing? Could producing a Narcos style Netflix series that depicts a Baffert-like trainer, high society clients and Arab sheiks create an explosion of interest in the game?

Why do we even think it will ever change. Baffert will win the Derby next year

My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’s horses....so what would be the point?

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’is horses....so what would be the point?

Totally agree! if you can't do anything about it and it's a waste of your money ....... DON'T BET!

[fpsoxfan]

During the pandemic I was betting Fonner park and whatever Australia had to offer along with whatever tree in my backyard bloomed first. I’ll be taking in all the Pimilco action Saturday. Enjoy!

[moses]

Lukas isn’t helping with the public perception of the sport.

https://twitter.com/downeyprofile/st...877315590?s=21

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by moses

Lukas isn’t helping with the public perception of the sport.

https://twitter.com/downeyprofile/st...877315590?s=21

Before the cancel culture gets any more carried away, here’s what Lukas really said to a real TV station.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/bob-b...ainer/36412469

[moses]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Before the cancel culture gets any more carried away, here’s what Lukas really said to a real TV station.

https://www.wbaltv.com/article/bob-b...ainer/36412469

So was that fake? Because I saw Ellis Starr and Pat Cummings tweet it and figured maybe they had actually checked it out. I see the tweet is now unavailable.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by moses

Lukas isn’t helping with the public perception of the sport.

https://twitter.com/downeyprofile/st...877315590?s=21

I think context is important. Between those 2 quoted sentences he also said,

“Obviously (21) picograms or whatever that horse had had no effect on the race or his performance. And every vet and every scientist and every lab will tell you that.”

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think context is important. Between those 2 quoted sentences he also said,

“Obviously (21) picograms or whatever that horse had had no effect on the race or his performance. And every vet and every scientist and every lab will tell you that.”

The lower level excuse doesn’t matter. It’s above the limit of detection and demonstrates the drug was given inside the window it’s was allowed. Sure at that time of race it probably had no impact but still is against rules. I still call bull on the vet no knowing it was in otomax. It’s a key ingredient

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think context is important. Between those 2 quoted sentences he also said,

“Obviously (21) picograms or whatever that horse had had no effect on the race or his performance. And every vet and every scientist and every lab will tell you that.”

The lower level excuse doesn’t matter. It’s above the limit of detection and demonstrates the drug was given inside the window it’s was allowed. Sure at that time of race it probably had no impact but still is against rules. I still call bull on the vet not knowing it was in otomax. It’s a key ingredient

[moses]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think context is important. Between those 2 quoted sentences he also said,

“Obviously (21) picograms or whatever that horse had had no effect on the race or his performance. And every vet and every scientist and every lab will tell you that.”

Even with that addition, his comment is incredibly tone deaf and his attitude is the exact reason there was a need for federal legislation to regulate the industry. Clearly people in the industry can’t do it themselves.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’s horses....so what would be the point?

YEP