Worst DQ of All Time?

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I respectfully disagree. I saw no contact. Sure the rider moved out but it was race riding.

I’ve seen horses carry other horses 5-6 paths before with no DQ. The eventual winner was carried out maybe a path, probably less, with no contact.

Bush league call at a bush league track.

The DRF chart calling termed it slight contact. If there was NO contact I think you would always be able to see light between the two horses. Which clearly wasn't there.

You might want to slow it down to super slow mo or even frame by frame. I've seen a whole lot of stretch runs looking for contact. In that race there most definitely was.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

The DRF chart calling termed it slight contact. If there was NO contact I think you would always be able to see light between the two horses. Which clearly wasn't there.

You might want to slow it down to super slow mo or even frame by frame. I've seen a whole lot of stretch runs looking for contact. In that race there most definitely was.

Who cares what the chart says? The Tampa chart caller is horrible. Anyone that does replay work will attest that he’s horrible at his job. Chart caller LMAO...

The optics were bad, I get that, but the rider on the runner up didn’t flinch, he just rode all the way through. Wouldn’t he at least have reacted if he was bumped in to?

Either way, no one here can say they haven’t seen MUCH worse stay up almost daily. This was a bad rider getting taken down because the leasing rider claimed foul.

[Dahoss]

I’m going to compliment you though Vic. You’ve managed to not make this all about you...yet.

Congrats!

[moses]

Finally got around to watching this. That was a pretty bad DQ. How do you justify something like that to the betting public?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Finally got around to watching this. That was a pretty bad DQ. How do you justify something like that to the betting public?

I know the optics looked bad but in reality it was just race riding. Just tough watching worse everyday that stays up

[Kitan]

The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kitan

The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.

1.5-2 paths?

You watch the right race?

[moses]

Originally Posted by Kitan

The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.

My problem with the DQ is that the contact and/or foul is not even really noticeable on the pan shot. I don't see the 5 get slowed or change its stride, so I have trouble believing that what the 4 did actually impacted the 5 or changed the result of the race, even with the small margin. (The flipside to this is, I also don't want to see jockeys exaggerating things to try to sell it to the stewards, which we also see some times and I can't stand.)

I guess the finish is close enough for the steward's the make this call, but I don't agree this would have been a DQ in every racing jurisdiction. I suppose it could be, but steward decisions are inconsistent enough that it's really hard to know how this would have been decided elsewhere.