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Old 06-17-2006, 06:30 PM
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It's really great to see these hard-hitting pros come back year after year.

But poor Perfect Drift still hasn't learned that you have to keep going after you pass all the other horses ... until the jockey says "Easy, boy!"

How many races has this gallant guy lost over the years ... because he stopped perservering in the final yards?
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:32 PM
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All it will take is one big one to shut people up and I am going to enjoy that moment....
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:56 PM
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Guys I love Perfect Drift also. One of the best names for a horse, I am sure DTS would agree. But PD was the beneficiary of death by speed at Churchill. Horses killing each other. Taking turns punching each other in the face.

The fractional times do not look exceptionally hot, but the race was a slugfest. I swear to God I hate this track. I cannot get anything right, so I rarely bet it. Too many quality horses. I will now retreat back to Lonestar.

BTW... Frankel's South American import got slapped in a big turf race on really soft going at LS. It rained pretty hard last night in Dallas. Horse wanted the lead in a bad way and got into early combat on very slow ground.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:02 PM
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BB is right about the way Drift gets in front and waits on horses. Many, many horses do it. It has to do with the pack mentality and horses that follow or lead. He's not an alpha horse and when he gets to the front he looks around for the horse he thinks he sjould be following. There's not a lot you can do about it except as a jock time the move to get him to the wire perfectly on time. It's why he constantly falls short.

Perfect Drift was my '02 Derby horse and I've loved him too all these years. But he is a maddening horse to root for. Even the Foster win three years ago was a bit tainted in my mind as Albarado was so god-awful on Minehaft.

But he's a trooper, and knowing that the BCC is at Churchill, you can expect another brave try. He was 5th.. then 4th.. then 3rd.. I said last year that you can expect him to win the Classic in '07 at Monmouth...
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:17 PM
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Guys I love Perfect Drift also. One of the best names for a horse, I am sure DTS would agree. But PD was the beneficiary of death by speed at Churchill. Horses killing each other. Taking turns punching each other in the face.

The fractional times do not look exceptionally hot, but the race was a slugfest. I swear to God I hate this track. I cannot get anything right, so I rarely bet it. Too many quality horses. I will now retreat back to Lonestar.

BTW... Frankel's South American import got slapped in a big turf race on really soft going at LS. It rained pretty hard last night in Dallas. Horse wanted the lead in a bad way and got into early combat on very slow ground.
Pat,
Yes, I agree...GREAT name!
Many don't know that he's named for what you want your dry fly to do when it gently settles over the "honey hole". No drag.
Dances on the current...up comes a gaping mouth.
Still others don't know that I'm talking about trout fishing (LOL).

Perfect Drift showed heart. Almost caught a big one!
Maybe next. Don't think many saw Seek Gold.
Another cast.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:33 PM
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Pat,
Another cast.
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Heck yes. Thats why I love this guy.
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Old 06-17-2006, 07:49 PM
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I must admit, when I was watching the race I was jumping up and down screaming "come on old guy! Show those youngins how it's done!"

What an awesome race. Seek Gold's jock new to keep him away from Drifty or drifty would have won that race. Reminded me of the close race Silver Charm lost that way.


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Old 06-17-2006, 07:58 PM
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I was kicking myself when he drew clear in the stretch for not betting him to win. I absolutely hated Buzzards Bay at 6/5 and didnt trust the only other horse I thought could beat Perfect Drift, Love of Money. I boxed those 2 and was in mental agony when Drift kicked clear from the contenders, Love of Money was deader than dirt.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
It's really great to see these hard-hitting pros come back year after year.

But poor Perfect Drift still hasn't learned that you have to keep going after you pass all the other horses ... until the jockey says "Easy, boy!"

How many races has this gallant guy lost over the years ... because he stopped perservering in the final yards?
For God sake, this horse has more heart than you could ever hope to.

Another great run by PD..... I thought he had won it but I'm thrilled all the same. Beating both Brass Hat and Buzzards Bay and still you critisize him??? Shame on you.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:56 PM
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Doesn't seem to me like Bold Brooklynite was really being critical. He called the horse "gallant" after all. I love Perfect Drift but he does tend to slow it down a little when he makes the lead. He still ran a hell of a race today though. A very nice second. To the person who said they had all their $ on PD to win I say, that is crazy. This horse always runs strong races, but he usually finishes 2nd or 3rd. Even if you don't usually place/show bet, this horse is BEGGING for across-the-board bets, especially when he is sent off at 10/1.
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Old 06-17-2006, 06:59 PM
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Doesn't seem to me like Bold Brooklynite was really being critical. He called the horse "gallant" after all. I love Perfect Drift but he does tend to slow it down a little when he makes the lead. He still ran a hell of a race today though. A very nice second. To the person who said they had all their $ on PD to win I say, that is crazy. This horse always runs strong races, but he usually finishes 2nd or 3rd. Even if you don't usually place/show bet, this horse is BEGGING for across-the-board bets, especially when he is sent off at 10/1.
Well I'm sorry..... I might have been having flashbacks from other past Perfect Drift comments so excuse me please.....

Regardless, a very nice run by PD.

As usual.
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Old 06-18-2006, 10:04 AM
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Well I'm sorry..... I might have been having flashbacks from other past Perfect Drift comments so excuse me please.....

Regardless, a very nice run by PD.

As usual.
For the record ...

... this was the first time ... in over 4,500 posts on various Forums ... that I have ever commented about Perfect Drift.

Steve and I ... and many other keen racing observers ... are correct about him ... he pulls himself up when no one is in front of him ... that's why he has so many places and shows relative to his wins.
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:24 AM
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For the record ...

... this was the first time ... in over 4,500 posts on various Forums ... that I have ever commented about Perfect Drift.

Steve and I ... and many other keen racing observers ... are correct about him ... he pulls himself up when no one is in front of him ... that's why he has so many places and shows relative to his wins.
This is mostly legend. It isn't really true, at least not in the last 3 years. It happened Saturday. He never led in his 3rd place finish in the BC last year. He never led in his 4th place in Hawthorne GC last year. HE never led in his 3rd place Foster finish last year. He never led his 2nd place Pacific Classic finish last year, both he and Borrego closed strong wearing down Lava Man. He won the Washington Park Hdcp. He never led the Clark last year finishing 3rd. He never led Roses in May his 2 seconds to him in 2004 (if he did lead it was quite narrow as they were side by side.) He never led the Foster in his 3rd there in 2004. He never led finishing 4th in the BC. He never led finishing 3rd in the Clark in 2004 behind St Liam. He did lead the Hawthorne God Cup when Freefourinternet ran him down. I don't remember much his 4 year old year, but he won a lot more so I am guessing it didn't happen much.

I've basically got 2 races his last 4 years when he was caught on the lead in the stretch, Saturday and the 2004 Hawthorne GC. (Perhaps his turf allowance this year as well, but I don't count that one.) His high number of 2nds and 3rds are mainly because he RARELY IF EVER HAS A LEAD, not because he is giving up leads.

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Old 06-19-2006, 07:04 AM
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HOC,

You're not wrong at all, but what you bring up is sort of the point.. Drift doesn't "want" the lead. He has the ability and the turn of foot to get to the front, but resists the urging to PASS HORSES. Common trait of pack horses that aren't the alpha. You can sometimes train it out of them, but not at age 6 or 7...
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Old 06-19-2006, 10:59 AM
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Steve and I ... and many other keen racing observers ... are correct about him ... he pulls himself up when no one is in front of him ... that's why he has so many places and shows relative to his wins.
Keen race observer...OK.
Also modest. You forgot to add that.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:04 AM
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He should be a serious threat in October on that same track. Bet the farm to place/show on him, but betting that horse to win is asking for it.
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:50 PM
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Doesn't seem to me like Bold Brooklynite was really being critical. He called the horse "gallant" after all. I love Perfect Drift but he does tend to slow it down a little when he makes the lead. He still ran a hell of a race today though. A very nice second. To the person who said they had all their $ on PD to win I say, that is crazy. This horse always runs strong races, but he usually finishes 2nd or 3rd. Even if you don't usually place/show bet, this horse is BEGGING for across-the-board bets, especially when he is sent off at 10/1.
It wasn't a bet I made with my head, I am fully aware that Perfect Drift has a hard time getting to the winner's circle.

I had a bad day at the windows, and I just took what I had left and said "to hell with it, I'm betting this guy to win again."

I have bet him to win almost every time he has entered the gate. Never cashed a place or show bet on him, and never will.

Just one of those sentimental ones......it was only $40.00 and a double going into the last.
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:52 PM
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It wasn't a bet I made with my head, I am fully aware that Perfect Drift has a hard time getting to the winner's circle.

I had a bad day at the windows, and I just took what I had left and said "to hell with it, I'm betting this guy to win again."

I have bet him to win almost every time he has entered the gate. Never cashed a place or show bet on him, and never will.

Just one of those sentimental ones......it was only $40.00 and a double going into the last.
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:51 PM
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Moodwalker, I LOVE your signature. And I really don't know.
Oh of course you do.....
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Old 06-17-2006, 11:32 PM
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nice to see some positive things for a change about the big boy! he ran a helluva race and shown he still has the talent to compete with and beat the top dirt horses in the world so as long as its on a fast track, pd can handle the off going he just wont run his best race on it! wish i had a similiar situation to his owner who puts the horse in his own backyard in kansas every winter, someday ill be able to have my horses at home=) hopefully PD comes outta the race well, cant wait to see him out there again!


1 last thing, it was great today seeing the replay of his triumph over mineshaft
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