9/5 (CD): Derby Trail Probables ~ 11 for Preakness with Swiss

[Kasept]

146TH KENTUCKY DERBY

SCR Finnick the Fierce (Rey Hernandez/Martin Garcia)
2 Max Player (Steve Asmussen/Ricardo Santana) 30-1
3 Enforceable (Mark Casse/Adam Beschizza) 30-1
4 Storm the Court (Peter Eurton/Julien Leparoux) 50-1
5 Major Fed (Greg Foley/James Graham) 50-1
SCR King Guillermo (Juan Carlos Avila/Samy Camacho)
7 Money Moves (Todd Pletcher/Javier Castellano) 30-1
8 South Bend (Bill Mott/Tyler Gaffalione) 50-1
9 Mr Big News (Bret Calhoun/Gabriel Saez) 50-1
SCR Thousand Words (Bob Baffert/Florent Geroux)
11 Necker Island (Chris Hartman/Miguel Mena) 50-1
12 Sole Volante (Patrick Biancone/Luca Panici) 30-1
13 Attachment Rate (Dale Romans/Joe Talamo) 50-1
14 Winning Impression (Dallas Stewart/Joe Rocco) 50-1
15 Ny Traffic (Saffie Joseph Jr./Paco Lopez) 20-1
16 Honor A.P. (John Shirreffs/Mike Smith) 5-1
17 Tiz the Law (Barclay Tagg/Manny Franco) 3-5
18 Authentic (Bob Baffert/John Velazquez) 8-1



10/3 (PIM): PREAKNESS

1 Authentic (Bob Baffert/John Velazquez)
2 Thousand Words (Bob Baffert/Florent Geroux)
3 Art Collector (Tom Drury/Brian Hernandez Jr.)
4 Pneumatic (Steve Asmussen/Joe Bravo)
5 Max Player (Steve Asmussen/Paco Lopez)
6 Excession (Steve Asmussen/Sheldon Russell)
7 Mr. Big News (Bret Calhoun/Gabriel Saez)
8 Liveyourbeastlife (Jorge Abreu/Trevor McCarthy)
9 Jesus' Team (Jose D'Angelo/TBA)
10 Country Grammer (Chad Brown/Victor Carrasco)
11 Swiss Skydiver (Ken McPeek/Robby Albarado)

[moses]

Originally Posted by Kasept

TAMPA BAY DERBY

Sole Volante
Chance It
Spa City
Relentless Dancer
Maker's Mo Mosa
Letmeno
King Guillermo

Pletcher to send 1-2

Interested to see Palm Springs progress. And Portos may warrant another try. I wonder if he’ll send either of those.

So far, it may have been a good move for Chance It to scratch today...I guess we’ll see. Spa City looks very good and Sole Volante a good horse...but the Fountain of Youth field may have been a little stronger. I’ll be interested to see if that move pays off.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by moses

Interested to see Palm Springs progress. And Portos may warrant another try. I wonder if he’ll send either of those.

So far, it may have been a good move for Chance It to scratch today...I guess we’ll see. Spa City looks very good and Sole Volante a good horse...but the Fountain of Youth field may have been a little stronger. I’ll be interested to see if that move pays off.

He could send Market Analysis...he did say that his next start would be a stake. I think I’d run him in the Gotham, but ....As to the FoY, frankly it seems like it came up incredibly weak outside the winner

[moses]

Originally Posted by Betsy

He could send Market Analysis...he did say that his next start would be a stake. I think I’d run him in the Gotham, but ....As to the FoY, frankly it seems like it came up incredibly weak outside the winner

I forgot about Market Analysis. Yes, the FOY looked strong going it but came back relatively weak. I’m just not sure how good the TB Derby field is wither. Sole Volante got beaten by both As Seen on Tv and Chance It earlier this year...but maybe he likes TB more than Gulfstream. Not sure, but I’m skeptical of everyone outside of Spa City and Chance It.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by moses

I forgot about Market Analysis. Yes, the FOY looked strong going it but came back relatively weak. I’m just not sure how good the TB Derby field is wither. Sole Volante got beaten by both As Seen on Tv and Chance It earlier this year...but maybe he likes TB more than Gulfstream. Not sure, but I’m skeptical of everyone outside of Spa City and Chance It.

Todd has lots of 3 year olds to keep track of, lol.

Sometimes a race looks weak and then, later on, it turns out that it was strong. ...

[Kasept]

TAMPA BAY DERBY

Sole Volante (Biancone)
Chance It (Joseph)
Spa City (KMc)
Relentless Dancer (Maker)
Mo Mosa (Maker)
Letmeno (Wilkes)
King Guillermo (Avila)
Texas Swing (Pletcher)
Market Analysis (Pletcher)
Unrighteous (Pletcher)
Bye Bye Melvin (Motion)

[ateamstupid]

Very interested to see what Attachment Rate does. His last race was scary good.

[JJP]

Unrighteous at 20-1 is very interesting.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by JJP

Unrighteous at 20-1 is very interesting.

Definitely looks to be sitting on a big one. Fun race

[moses]

Originally Posted by JJP

Unrighteous at 20-1 is very interesting.

I don’t think there is a morning line yet, is there? I see him at 20-1 on HRN but they are pretty bad at predicting the ML or final odds. I’d definitely be interested in him at 20-1. Same for Spa City who they have at 10-1.

Edit: But then I saw someone from DRF posting the same lines so maybe I’m wrong there. 20-1 would be great.

[Alabama Stakes]

Heading for home, it’s Wrecking Crew all alone by 6 lengths.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Heading for home, it’s Wrecking Crew all alone by 6 lengths.

Put the pipe down.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Put the pipe down.

To be fair, there is a decent chance that Wrecking Crew finishes alone, behind the rest of the field by 6+ lengths.

[moses]

With Kiaran McLaughlin retiring, does anyone know who will be training Spa City?

Sorry if Steve has covered this on the show, I haven’t been able to listen at all this week.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Put the pipe down.

Go watch The Sting. You should be embarrassed not knowing the line. You probably would have knew what I was talking about 7 years ago.....when you used to be good. Maybe you will get a second wind this spring and summer. It’s noble work you’re doing.

[blackthroatedwind]

There's an excellent book ( non-fiction) I read years ago about a rag tag baseball team of recovering addicts and others called Wrecking Crew. Highly recommended.

https://www.amazon.com/Wrecking-Crew...3433507&sr=8-2

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Go watch The Sting. You should be embarrassed not knowing the line. You probably would have knew what I was talking about 7 years ago.....when you used to be good. Maybe you will get a second wind this spring and summer. It’s noble work you’re doing.

Great movie. I haven’t seen it in roughly a decade. No way I’d pick up on that reference.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

Great movie. I haven’t seen it in roughly a decade. No way I’d pick up on that reference.

Does that mean “place it on Lucky Dan “ would draw a blank too ? I’ve watched The Sting once a year since it was at the movie theatre. Never gets old. They don’t make em like that anymore.

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Does that mean “place it on Lucky Dan “ would draw a blank too ? I’ve watched The Sting once a year since it was at the movie theatre. Never gets old. They don’t make em like that anymore.

That would register...but keep in mind, that movie came out 12 years before I was born. My dad would reference “Place it on Lucky Dan” routinely though so that one would definitely register.

[Alabama Stakes]

I like when they ask the guy if he wants flat rate or percentage. He asks who the mark is. When they say Doyle Lonegan , the look on his face as he says flat rate is beautiful. Best line of the movie is very tough to narrow down, but, “ what was I supposed to do call him out for cheating better than me in front of the others?”wins in a close one over “ revenge is for suckers.”