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Old 04-01-2019, 06:16 AM
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Correct. I don't think any one of us who even halfway have been exposed to racing and the facts DON'T see the absurdity of the response and the response of politicians (and the track). I think we all get it. It's laughable and sad.

None of that matters. Just like it didn't matter what the facts were around the PETA "hidden video." The message and issue were lost. There was no way to recover.

I'm not saying that is the case with Santa Anita. I don't know what the outcome will be. But the narrative is already gone, lost. Those who love racing and understand the reality of how the animals are treated....don't matter -- period.

I got roasted on here when I pointed out that it didn't matter what any of us thought about PETA's undercover tactics. The vast majority of the public would think nothing but "oh those poor horses, shut all this down."

That's what's happening again.
Here is the difference if you get it or not. The industry stood together after the PETA video and denounced it for what it was, propaganda swill. This time TSG embraced the narrative got morons like Finley and others to legitimize the "fears and concerns." This is the equivalent of eating your own. This is why I thought Steve should pen a killer Op-Ed to stem this tide and disinfect this narrative.
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Old 04-01-2019, 06:31 AM
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Here is the difference if you get it or not. The industry stood together after the PETA video and denounced it for what it was, propaganda swill. This time TSG embraced the narrative got morons like Finley and others to legitimize the "fears and concerns." This is the equivalent of eating your own. This is why I thought Steve should pen a killer Op-Ed to stem this tide and disinfect this narrative.
Why don’t you a Titan of industry write that Killer Op-Ed instead of trying to throw someone else into the line of fire?
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Old 04-01-2019, 07:07 AM
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Why don’t you a Titan of industry write that Killer Op-Ed instead of trying to throw someone else into the line of fire?
because I am FN illiterate
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Old 04-01-2019, 08:42 AM
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because I am FN illiterate
You make a great point.
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Old 04-01-2019, 10:46 AM
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You make a great point.
Perhaps JMS62 is on to something? I can write the Op Ed and you can sell the FreddyMo decoder.
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Old 04-01-2019, 11:01 AM
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Perhaps JMS62 is on to something? I can write the Op Ed and you can sell the FreddyMo decoder.
You need a liquor license to sell the FreddyMo decoder.
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Old 04-02-2019, 03:55 AM
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Here is the difference if you get it or not. The industry stood together after the PETA video and denounced it for what it was, propaganda swill. This time TSG embraced the narrative got morons like Finley and others to legitimize the "fears and concerns." This is the equivalent of eating your own. This is why I thought Steve should pen a killer Op-Ed to stem this tide and disinfect this narrative.
Actually Freddy, the industry didn't stand together until the distortions and fabrications of the video were fully demonstrated. In the immediate aftermath, Dinny Phipps in fact, vilified Steve Asmussen saying he shouldn't show his face at Derby/Oaks. Those that defended Scott Blasi and the barn as a whole were attacked by the agenda machine. My memory on this is particularly clear.

There's far too many working parts to try to 'stem the tide' in one sitting or with one voice. On ATR, we have 15 hours a week to offer proper perspective to Stronach Group's obfuscation of the original problem's root issues and the resulting flood of misinformation and wider opportunistic pandering. Beyond my own ongoing commentary, we've presented appropriate pushback from Hill 'n' Dale's John Sikura (industry leadership vacuum), DRF's Jay Privman (TSG irresponsibility), Dr. Steven Allday (anatomy of breakdown clusters) and yesterday, RacingUK's Nick Luck (appropriate response to animal welfare question). Florida HBPA board member Chuck Simon visits in studio today and I'll be broadcasting from Santa Anita Wed-Thu-Fri-Mon and will deliver an array of stakeholders, including Eclipse's Aron Wellman & LRF's Billy Koch) to voice their views and concerns.

We're offering drivel-rebuking op-eds on a daily basis.
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Old 04-02-2019, 06:36 AM
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Actually Freddy, the industry didn't stand together until the distortions and fabrications of the video were fully demonstrated. In the immediate aftermath, Dinny Phipps in fact, vilified Steve Asmussen saying he shouldn't show his face at Derby/Oaks. Those that defended Scott Blasi and the barn as a whole were attacked by the agenda machine. My memory on this is particularly clear.

There's far too many working parts to try to 'stem the tide' in one sitting or with one voice. On ATR, we have 15 hours a week to offer proper perspective to Stronach Group's obfuscation of the original problem's root issues and the resulting flood of misinformation and wider opportunistic pandering. Beyond my own ongoing commentary, we've presented appropriate pushback from Hill 'n' Dale's John Sikura (industry leadership vacuum), DRF's Jay Privman (TSG irresponsibility), Dr. Steven Allday (anatomy of breakdown clusters) and yesterday, RacingUK's Nick Luck (appropriate response to animal welfare question). Florida HBPA board member Chuck Simon visits in studio today and I'll be broadcasting from Santa Anita Wed-Thu-Fri-Mon and will deliver an array of stakeholders, including Eclipse's Aron Wellman & LRF's Billy Koch) to voice their views and concerns.

We're offering drivel-rebuking op-eds on a daily basis.
Nick Luck was excellent yesterday. Yes, of course, you are dealing with this extremely well on air. I believe several people within TDN that either worked for or with them were mortified by the decision to allow Finley's piece all hoping someone would put Willy's thoughts in proper context. Now we have genius Ellis Starr tweeting youtube films about how poppers are more painful to horses than they would be to humans.
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