Santa Anita Cancels Thursday Card; LATEST: Racing Suspended

[Dunbar]

It may be insincere, and it may be self-serving. But are there any bad ideas in what they are proposing to do?

[freddymo]

TSG is doing their all to make NYRA Racing Great Again. What owner in their right mind would succumb to this fabricated nonsense?

You chase the respected and highly competent superintendent out, the track gets screwed up, horses die, you spin the issue away from management errors, and lo and behold you ruin your business.

The entry box at Belmont BETTER be bloated.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

TSG is doing their all to make NYRA Racing Great Again. What owner in their right mind would succumb to this fabricated nonsense?

You chase the respected and highly competent superintendent out, the track gets screwed up, horses die, you spin the issue away from management errors, and lo and behold you ruin your business.

The entry box at Belmont BETTER be bloated.

Speaking of fabricated nonsense, what owner in their right mind would think that it's good to have a $1,500 vet bill on every horse every month, would think that horses need lasix, and would think that injecting ankles and using all kinds of drugs as a crutch is the best way to go? What owner in their right mind would think the status quo is fine and that we should just continue using all kinds of drugs?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not claiming that lasix caused these breakdowns. I'm simply saying that these changes were long overdue. This current crisis gives them the impetus to start making the changes that will save the sport.

I think these changes will be a huge positive in the long run. In the short run, I don't know what will happen. Some trainers are threatening to leave Southern California. I don't know if they are bluffing or not. If a few do in fact leave, it won't be a problem. But if too many leave, it will be a big problem because there will be a horse shortage, which would hurt field size. We know that small fields are very bad for business.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Speaking of fabricated nonsense, what owner in their right mind would think that it's good to have a $1,500 vet bill on every horse every month, would think that horses need lasix, and would think that injecting ankles and using all kinds of drugs as a crutch is the best way to go? What owner in their right mind would think the status quo is fine and that we should just continue using all kinds of drugs?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not claiming that lasix caused these breakdowns. I'm simply saying that these changes were long overdue. This current crisis gives them the impetus to start making the changes that will save the sport.

I think these changes will be a huge positive in the long run. In the short run, I don't know what will happen. Some trainers are threatening to leave Southern California. I don't know if they are bluffing or not. If a few do in fact leave, it won't be a problem. But if too many leave, it will be a big problem because there will be a horse shortage, which would hurt field size. We know that small fields are awful for business.

One quick question, You think TSG gives a flying **** about that nonsense above? Isn't the timing extremely convenient? If so why not implement such at Laurel and GP immediately? I will tell you why because they couldn't get away with it in Florida/Maryland trainers/owners have viable options.

Hi, honey its time to sell the house and move the family, is not going to be the most chosen option.

TSG moved the goalposts(clever); they have a nightmare issue in a liberal state where the government looks at racing with discern. So they manufactured a PR story to change the narrative from dead horses because THEY screwed up, too we love the pretty horses and are going to make sure we protect them.

[Konk]

Speaking of fabricated nonsense, what owner in their right mind would think that it's good to have a $1,500 vet bill on every horse every month, would think that horses need lasix, and would think that injecting ankles and using all kinds of drugs as a crutch is the best way to go? What owner in their right mind would think the status quo is fine and that we should just continue using all kinds of drugs?

Those winning big purses and cashing big bets?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

One quick question, You think TSG gives a flying **** about that nonsense above? Isn't the timing extremely convenient? If so why not implement such at Laurel and GP immediately? I will tell you why because they couldn't get away with it in Florida/Maryland trainers/owners have viable options.

Hi, honey its time to sell the house and move the family, is not going to be the most chosen option.

TSG moved the goalposts(clever); they have a nightmare issue in a liberal state where the government looks at racing with discern. So they manufactured a PR story to change the narrative from dead horses because THEY screwed up, too we love the pretty horses and are going to make sure we protect them.

Most of what you are saying is true. I agree with almost everything you said in terms of why they are taking these actions. But I still think that these are things that need to be done to improve the sport. I think the sport has gone way downhill because of all the drugs.

[casp0555]

March 22 does not sound like its going to be the return to racing date...

https://www.paulickreport.com/news/r...t-santa-anita/

[Rupert Pupkin]

I just received this e-mail from National Turf 5 minutes ago: "BULLETIN:

Stronach Group reaches deal with horsemen. Racing resumes at Santa Anita on Friday, Mar. 22."

I don't know any of the details. That was all it said.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Most of what you are saying is true. I agree with almost everything you said in terms of why they are taking these actions. But I still think that these are things that need to be done to improve the sport. I think the sport has gone way downhill because of all the drugs.

Which 'all the drugs'? Name the 'drugs'. Horses receive far LESS 'drugs' than ever before.

California is using the controlled THERAPUETIC MEDICATION protocols of NUMP and has what is considered the best testing in the country.

If you're anti-Lasix, fine.. say that. But there's nothing in these 'actions' in terms of the MEDICATIONS that 'improves the sport'. In fact, they put horses at greater risk, to say nothing of the unintended consequences.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Which 'all the drugs'? Name the 'drugs'. Horses receive far LESS 'drugs' than ever before.

California is using the controlled THERAPUETIC MEDICATION protocols of NUMP and has what is considered the best testing in the country.

If you're anti-Lasix, fine.. say that. But there's nothing in these 'actions' in terms of the MEDICATIONS that 'improves the sport'. In fact, they put horses at greater risk, to say nothing of the unintended consequences.

Ok, two things can be right at the same time. First, perhaps therapeutic meds are less prevalent now than at any other point. Second, cheating is as pervasive as ever and not to acknowledge such is as silly as suggesting horses are on LESS "drugs." Conflating therapeutic drugs which at their core have positive benefit and efficacy with drugs that have no place in the sport is ridiculous.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Speaking of fabricated nonsense, what owner in their right mind would think that it's good to have a $1,500 vet bill on every horse every month, would think that horses need lasix, and would think that injecting ankles and using all kinds of drugs as a crutch is the best way to go? What owner in their right mind would think the status quo is fine and that we should just continue using all kinds of drugs?

Don't get me wrong. I'm not claiming that lasix caused these breakdowns. I'm simply saying that these changes were long overdue. This current crisis gives them the impetus to start making the changes that will save the sport.

I think these changes will be a huge positive in the long run. In the short run, I don't know what will happen. Some trainers are threatening to leave Southern California. I don't know if they are bluffing or not. If a few do in fact leave, it won't be a problem. But if too many leave, it will be a big problem because there will be a horse shortage, which would hurt field size. We know that small fields are very bad for business.

It's hard to be wrong about everything, but you come through consistently.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm not claiming that lasix caused these breakdowns. I'm simply saying that these changes were long overdue. This current crisis gives them the impetus to start making the changes that will save the sport.