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Old 04-24-2018, 05:35 PM
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Actually Sotomayor broke her shoulder in a fall last week. She said it should not interfere in her job. I'm sure decision was made a ways back and opinions have been written by clerks and edited by justices. Whatever it is, it is by now.

Just waiting for the "Reveal". Would change the complexion of the US. Would take something that many of us did illegally in the US for most of our lives and make it legal.

I, personally, think it will have little effect on Thoroughbred Racing, per se. Now it will have a big positive effect on tracks (Monmouth) who can capitalize on it. I don't think it takes handle away at all. I know people who play only horses, or horses and football, horses and basketball and only sports. The people who play horses are still going to play horses.

If they turn it down, it will be a terrible blow. With the precedent of a SCOTUS judgment, it would be extremely difficult to ever approach it again. However, I think Nevada and Delaware throws a wrench into this. It creates an unfairness issue among states, that is why I think it goes through.

I think they have to say it is OK for everybody or OK for nobody.
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:35 PM
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Actually Sotomayor broke her shoulder in a fall last week. She said it should not interfere in her job. I'm sure decision was made a ways back and opinions have been written by clerks and edited by justices. Whatever it is, it is by now.

Just waiting for the "Reveal". Would change the complexion of the US. Would take something that many of us did illegally in the US for most of our lives and make it legal.

I, personally, think it will have little effect on Thoroughbred Racing, per se. Now it will have a big positive effect on tracks (Monmouth) who can capitalize on it. I don't think it takes handle away at all. I know people who play only horses, or horses and football, horses and basketball and only sports. The people who play horses are still going to play horses.

If they turn it down, it will be a terrible blow. With the precedent of a SCOTUS judgment, it would be extremely difficult to ever approach it again. However, I think Nevada and Delaware throws a wrench into this. It creates an unfairness issue among states, that is why I think it goes through.

I think they have to say it is OK for everybody or OK for nobody.
Exactly. I bet maybe 2 or 3 football games a year. i trust the animals more than the humans. I know that a horse may lose but he will ALWAYS try. The real benefit it will have for the Meadowlands and Monmouth will be small but will help pay the daily operations expenses and employees.
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Old 04-25-2018, 10:53 PM
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Agree totally Richard. Any money skimmed off of that and put into racing will benefit racing.

People forget that racing was the original, and only, gambling in the US. They also forget it employs a tremendous amount of people and provides a full or partial income for many more. It's hundreds of thousands of people.

When you think of the NBA. 15 players a team, 32 teams. 480, add coaches and staff, maybe 1200. MLB, double that and NFL triple that. But still.

Horse Racing is a livelihood for a tremendous amount of people. A good livelihood. They work hard, long hours. I admire all of them.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:34 AM
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Agree totally Richard. Any money skimmed off of that and put into racing will benefit racing.

People forget that racing was the original, and only, gambling in the US. They also forget it employs a tremendous amount of people and provides a full or partial income for many more. It's hundreds of thousands of people.

When you think of the NBA. 15 players a team, 32 teams. 480, add coaches and staff, maybe 1200. MLB, double that and NFL triple that. But still.

Horse Racing is a livelihood for a tremendous amount of people. A good livelihood. They work hard, long hours. I admire all of them.
Maybe I am optimistic but knowing Gamblers love of Action I could see those at the Sports book watching games throwing some money at a race or 3..
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:29 PM
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Maybe I am optimistic but knowing Gamblers love of Action I could see those at the Sports book watching games throwing some money at a race or 3..
Absolutely. I believe it is more likely a guy watching his team lose might get up and take a shot on a race. Not to mention games takes hours for a result and races are minutes.
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7-2 DECISION OVERTURNING PASPA: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...6-476_dbfi.pdf
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Quick but extensive synopsis of today's decision and immediate fallout.. Congratulations to @MonmouthPark's Dennis Drazin's whose vision, courage and steadfastness made this historic change possible.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...6-476_dbfi.pdf
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:23 AM
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IT'S OFFICIAL!! 7-2 DECISION!

While I was confident the SC would rule in favor of NJ, I thought it would be 6-3 or 5-4. Ginsburg and Sotomayor were the dissenting opinion.

This is a long time coming and hats off to NJ for fighting so long for it. Monmouth Park should reap some serious benefits starting very soon.
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