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Old 04-23-2018, 11:04 AM
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Quip will bypass Derby, try Preakness.. Combatant moves into field.. Instilled Regard now on deck..
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Quip will bypass Derby
Madonamia, it's almost like these horses know i have a futures wager on them.


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Old 04-23-2018, 10:24 PM
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3-1 Justify
6-1 Magnum Moon
6-1 Mendelssohn
8-1 Audible
8-1 Bolt d'Oro
8-1 Good Magic
15-1 Vino Rosso
20-1 Enticed
20-1 Flameaway
20-1 Noble Indy
20-1 My Boy Jack
20-1 Quip
30-1 Free Drop Billy
30-1 Gronkowski
30-1 Hofburg
30-1 Solomini
50-1 Bravazo
50-1 Firenze Fire
50-1 Lone Sailor
50-1 Promises Fulfilled

Looking at those horses it looks like the fav. will be 3-1 at post. Not sure if it will be Justify though. Big payouts likely on exotics this year.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:07 AM
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Anyone remember odds or have PP's for Bellamy Road in 2005 Derby? When looking at Justify I can't help but compare the 2. Very fast horses that will take a lot of money but weren't tested yet. Bellamy Road ran pretty well considering the pace and had the lead at the top of the stretch?
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:16 AM
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Anyone remember odds or have PP's for Bellamy Road in 2005 Derby? When looking at Justify I can't help but compare the 2. Very fast horses that will take a lot of money but weren't tested yet. Bellamy Road ran pretty well considering the pace and had the lead at the top of the stretch?
He went off at 5/2. There were some burners in that race including Spanish Chestnut, who went a crazy half.

He ran 3x as a 2yo so I'm not sure he's the best comp. Bodemeister is the best I've got.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:36 AM
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I know it's not a direct comparison because of when they started racing but I feel like the way the race is going to play out could be similar. Instead of Spanish Chestnut we have Promises Fulfilled to gun it. While i'm not sold he goes 22 and 44 I can't help feel like Romans will have him rolling to give Free Drop Billy something honest to run at.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:49 PM
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2018 PACE QUADRANTS WITH JAMES SCULLY

ON

1-Promises Fulfilled 1st
2-Justify 2nd
3-Noble Indy 5th
4-Flameaway 6th
5-Mendelssohn 9th


NEAR

6-Magnum Moon 10th
7-Good Magic 4th
8-Enticed 11th
9-Bravazo 8th
10-Solomini 20th


STALK

11-Vino Rosso 18th
12-Instilled Regard 17th
13-Audible 12th
14-Bolt d'Oro 3rd
15-Firenze Fire 7th


OFF

16-Hofburg 16th
17-Free Drop Billy 14th
18-Combatant 13th
19-Lone Sailor 15th
20-My Boy Jack 19th
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Is there a condensed printable version of the entries with odds?
Simmilar to the one shown in this thread.
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Leparoux only riding in 1 of the Turf races on Sat??
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:32 PM
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Steve,
You have Mendy as B or C for your pick 4,5s?
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Old 05-01-2018, 10:57 PM
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Default Brisnet PPs

According to the Brisnet PPs for the Derby, these are the speed figures for some of the major prep races:

Justify Winner SA Derby 114
Bolt D'Oro 2nd SA Derby 110
Core Beliefs 3rd SA Derby ? (not in the KD PPs, obviously)
Instilled Regard 4th SA Derby 102

Vino Rosso Winner Wood Memorial 102
Noble Indy Winner La Derby 100
Magnum Moon Winner Ark Derby 99
Good Magic Winner Bluegrass Stakes 98
My Boy Jack Winner Lexington Stakes 94

Since Core Beliefs defeated Instilled Regard by 1 1/4 lengths, that would give him a speed figure of 103 or 104, good enough to beat the winners of the other five races listed above. Justify may be the best horse in the KD field, but to me the speed figures for the SA Derby look to be a little inflated.
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:50 PM
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According to the Brisnet PPs for the Derby, these are the speed figures for some of the major prep races:

Justify Winner SA Derby 114
Bolt D'Oro 2nd SA Derby 110
Core Beliefs 3rd SA Derby ? (not in the KD PPs, obviously)
Instilled Regard 4th SA Derby 102

Vino Rosso Winner Wood Memorial 102
Noble Indy Winner La Derby 100
Magnum Moon Winner Ark Derby 99
Good Magic Winner Bluegrass Stakes 98
My Boy Jack Winner Lexington Stakes 94

Since Core Beliefs defeated Instilled Regard by 1 1/4 lengths, that would give him a speed figure of 103 or 104, good enough to beat the winners of the other five races listed above. Justify may be the best horse in the KD field, but to me the speed figures for the SA Derby look to be a little inflated.
You left out the fastest horse in the race....
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