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Old 12-26-2006, 03:45 PM
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He is not a youngster anymore. I know he loves what he does. Even if some do not agree with his tactics.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:47 PM
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He is not a youngster anymore. I know he loves what he does. Even if some do not agree with his tactics.
I agree. At 71 it is hard to have operations at multiple tracks. I think it is good for him and racing to have him scale down and be at one track.
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Old 12-26-2006, 03:48 PM
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I think it would be good for the welfare of horses for him to be gone.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:06 PM
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I think it would be good for the welfare of horses for him to be gone.
hate to be "that guy" but i agree with Gander. Countless numbers of horses have had to end their careers short b/c of D. Wayne. While i respect him and what he's done for the sport, he has (IMO) ruined some awfully nice horses, and i rarely see much of his stock make it pass their 3 YO campaign. I think he preps them way to hard with / for triple crown races and there isn't much left of them by years end.

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Old 12-26-2006, 04:27 PM
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that is ridiculous. shows complete lack of knowledge of lukas training program. lukas is anything but hard on a horse. he's one of the softest trainers around, which is also why he injures a lot of horses. if you watch lukas over the years he vascillates back and forth between soft training and somewhat toughter training. Lukas: "I do not work horses". lukas breezes them fairly slow every 8-10 days. does a few gallops in between at 18sec/f. and races them. that is about it. if you disbelieve the post read Ross Staaden's Winning Trainers on the subject. There is page after page of Lukas training logs. For the uninformed--it is wise to equate hard training with unsound horses, and soft training with trainers that injure horses. there's a large correlation.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:28 PM
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rewrite part of that last post: equate sound horses with hard trainders--injured horses with soft trainers. anyone doubt it, i'll be glad to post the training of Nashua for his match race with swaps.
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Old 12-26-2006, 04:52 PM
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rewrite part of that last post: equate sound horses with hard trainders--injured horses with soft trainers. anyone doubt it, i'll be glad to post the training of Nashua for his match race with swaps.
Times have changed a little since Swaps and Nashua ran. Nowadays every trainer out there will tell you that the harder you train them, the more likely they are to get hurt. There's no doubt about that and it's not even debatable. The only quetsion is how hard to train them to give them their best chance of winning without breaking them down. It's somewhat of a "catch 22". For example, if you have a good horse that has never run before, if you really want him to win first-time out, his best chance of winning will be if you give him some fast works. The problem is that if you work him fast, you are increasing the chances that the horse wil get hurt before he even makes his first start.

Wih regards to Lukas, he breaks down more horses than anyone. The numbers speak for themselves. He has more sore horses than anyone else. He runs his horses into the ground. He has a terrible reputation and that is why he has a very hard time getting owners these days.
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