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Old 03-16-2017, 07:51 AM
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My understanding is that DRF is out of the NHC completely. Their "sponsorship" never really amounted to anything as they never contributed to the prize pool. Horsetourneys will be the main on-line source now.

Not sure what led to the breakup. DRF made lots of money holding qualifiers and will not make nearly the same offering HPWS spots instead. NTRA will lose the spotlight that Pete and DRF brought to it. Seems that both sides lose in this deal.

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Old 03-16-2017, 09:06 AM
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My understanding is that DRF is out of the NHC completely. Their "sponsorship" never really amounted to anything as they never contributed to the prize pool. Horsetourneys will be the main on-line source now.

Not sure what led to the breakup. DRF made lots of money holding qualifiers and will not make nearly the same offering HPWS spots instead. NTRA will lose the spotlight that Pete and DRF brought to it. Seems that both sides lose in this deal.

Paul
Financial elements aside, Crist/DRF's contribution to the founding of the event, the publicity provided by DRF during its' growth and the Handicapper of the Year Eclipse to the winner feels like amounting to something to me. Also, ATR featuring Pete, NHC, tour/players/winners the last few years is only a result of DRF, but maybe that's been an insignificant contribution. Not to mention ATR broadcasting the event live for 20+ hours the last 3 years.

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Old 03-16-2017, 10:30 AM
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Let's not forget about the BCBC online qualifiers as those seem to have disappeared completely as well now from the online realm, which I think is more of a loss.

I've tried to reach out a few times to see where these will turn up, hopefully a resolution will come soon for that too
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:30 AM
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Financial elements aside, Crist/DRF's contribution to the founding of the event, the publicity provided by DRF during its' growth and the Handicapper of the Year Eclipse to the winner feels like amounting to something to me. Also, ATR featuring Pete, NHC, tour/players/winners the last few years is only a result of DRF, but maybe that's been an insignificant contribution. Not to mention ATR broadcasting the event live for 20+ hours the last 3 years.

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Does this mean ATR would NOT cover the event any longer?
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https://www.ntra.com/10th-annual-nhc...rd-prize-pool/
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Well, it definitely has grown up. They moved the weekend by 2 weeks. Interesting.
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:23 PM
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Does this mean ATR would NOT cover the event any longer?
Not at all. In fact focus would nearly double to an extent as I'll provide coverage of both NTRA and DRF event arcs.

My presenting Pete weekly has been courtesy of my own programming decision. Other than the NTRA providing hotel accommodations in Vegas, I take no compensation from any NHC-related entity for the airtime.
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Not at all. In fact focus would nearly double to an extent as I'll provide coverage of both NTRA and DRF event arcs.

My presenting Pete weekly has been courtesy of my own programming decision. Other than the NTRA providing hotel accommodations in Vegas, I take no compensation from any NHC-related entity for the airtime.
Oh good, I figured but wasn't sure. After re-reading it you were just listing the promotions they were getting.

Looks like the 2018 tourney will get the big TI Ballroom. That will be nice.
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Oh good, I figured but wasn't sure. After re-reading it you were just listing the promotions they were getting.

Looks like the 2018 tourney will get the big TI Ballroom. That will be nice.
Looks like other options will be available for us.


http://www.drf.com/tour
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Looks like other options will be available for us.


http://www.drf.com/tour
yessir...always a back-up plan
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Looks like other options will be available for us.


http://www.drf.com/tour
We will see when the details emerge. I am a huge live money contest guy. But, where exactly is the prize money supposed to come from here? Plus, the DRF track record with contests hardly inspires confidence.

Time will tell.

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