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Old 12-22-2016, 07:39 PM
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If rule of thumb says it takes 20 days for a drug to go thru a horses system, can't the governing boards put a rule in place that you can't give the horse that drug 25 days before race to make sure there is no positive, or a standard set of rules that no drugs given to horses 30 days before race? Just wondering if any standard rule could work or is it wishful thinking.
That's essentially the premise of all allowable medication. Except horses metabolize at varying rates.

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That's essentially the premise of all allowable medication. Except horses metabolize at varying rates.
Learned from somebody that knows a lot more than me about this particular steroid that multiple does in a relatively short time span like was done with Masochistic radically alters the withdrawal time. I guess Ellis didn't know that, but he should have.
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Learned from somebody that knows a lot more than me about this particular steroid that multiple does in a relatively short time span like was done with Masochistic radically alters the withdrawal time. I guess Ellis didn't know that, but he should have.
The compounding pharmacy aspect is a wild card too. It's a humiliating black eye for Ellis and everyone involved. But the post race test part worked and its odd to me that no one seems to care to acknowledge that. And the OCT portion demonstrates that the industry can be out in front of potential problems. That's something viable and productive to build on going forward.
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The compounding pharmacy aspect is a wild card too. It's a humiliating black eye for Ellis and everyone involved. But the post race test part worked and its odd to me that no one seems to care to acknowledge that. And the OCT portion demonstrates that the industry can be out in front of potential problems. That's something viable and productive to build on going forward.
Well stated, agree.
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