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Old 11-03-2016, 03:06 PM
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I really like this horse and the post is fine going 7F, I've got no concerns there. I would however like to know why Desormeaux isn't taking this mount and Smith (who's never ridden her) is up. Seems very odd. Pacewise it looks to me like Wavell Avenue and By the Moon will benefit the most, but Haveyougoneaway may be closer and the toughest to get by.
Unless I know why the jockey got replaced I usually don't pay much
attention to it. In this case I don't think it makes much difference as Smith
has a way with the ladies. The more I look the more Haveyougoneaway looks the winner. It also concerns me that Finest City has never won on the SA dirt
but her best races have been with outside posts, so maybe today's the day
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Old 11-03-2016, 08:00 PM
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FWIW: When the gate is full at 7 Furlongs @ Santa Anita the inside posts generally break a length+ slow.
So that could hinder some early lick from the inside.
Dare I play the "cliché" card here........due to the lack of pure .44 speed,this could be a Jockeys race.
Maybe come up with a jockey that has been known to think outside of the box.
Mike Smith will surprise and send when not expected on occasion.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:58 PM
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FWIW: When the gate is full at 7 Furlongs @ Santa Anita the inside posts generally break a length+ slow.
So that could hinder some early lick from the inside.
Dare I play the "cliché" card here........due to the lack of pure .44 speed,this could be a Jockeys race.
Maybe come up with a jockey that has been known to think outside of the box.
Mike Smith will surprise and send when not expected on occasion.
Mike Smith is A good bet in a Breeders Cup race. I have him Over 2.5 wins in Breeders cup races this weekend
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Old 11-03-2016, 11:02 PM
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Mike Smith is A good bet in a Breeders Cup race. I have him Over 2.5 wins in Breeders cup races this weekend
Really? Wow. I have his best chance of winning tomorrow as Songbird, and I don't even think that's likely. He must have one hell of a Saturday lined up for you to like him to win 3 races or more.

Best of luck this weekend Jim. Hope you connect on a few bets that you swing for the fences!
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:00 AM
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Really? Wow. I have his best chance of winning tomorrow as Songbird, and I don't even think that's likely. He must have one hell of a Saturday lined up for you to like him to win 3 races or more.

Best of luck this weekend Jim. Hope you connect on a few bets that you swing for the fences!
Really?? Arrogate, Coasted and Tamarkuz is 3 right?
Its funny because Bird and MasO will blow me out of everything and I won't cover either horse at all!! And they will likely be 6-5 and 7-5 at post time.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:32 AM
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Really?? Arrogate, Coasted and Tamarkuz is 3 right?
Its funny because Bird and MasO will blow me out of everything and I won't cover either horse at all!! And they will likely be 6-5 and 7-5 at post time.
You're counting Tamarkuz? Isn't he running against the best horse in training?!?

And while I like Coasted as a price play, that race is so wide open that it's beyond foolish to count that as a likely win.

Which brings us to Arrogate. Sure, he can win with the right relaxed trip, but you'll be playing that horse at short odds? When has he ever had to fend off a challenge from the REAL best horse(s) in training?


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Old 11-04-2016, 07:19 AM
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Really? Wow. I have his best chance of winning tomorrow as Songbird, and I don't even think that's likely. He must have one hell of a Saturday lined up for you to like him to win 3 races or more.

Best of luck this weekend Jim. Hope you connect on a few bets that you swing for the fences!
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:06 AM
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Mike Smith is A good bet in a Breeders Cup race. I have him Over 2.5 wins in Breeders cup races this weekend
After digging into this race a bit deeper, it's not the switch to Mike Smith that has me off the horse, I just don't like the her any longer. She is going to need a ridiculous pace set up that I don't think exists here.

RHT's horse cutting back is very interesting and may get some of my attention, but sticking with my original 3 choices for now.

Pete, I'm of the opinion that Paola Queen may in fact go out of necessity, but also will be cooked by the half and really not have any impact on the others.
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