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Old 09-26-2016, 10:04 PM
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my BCD / BCC daily double 2016

all the fillies and mares // chrome....$14
Wonderful bet. Sharp handicapping.
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Old 09-26-2016, 10:46 PM
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Wonderful bet. Sharp handicapping.
Tell us again about Plum Pretty.
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Old 09-27-2016, 07:01 AM
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Tell us again about Plum Pretty.
To be fair...Enola Grey?
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:15 AM
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To be fair...Enola Grey?
Enola got a dumb passed ride last out, but yeah, I expected more.

Plum Pretty though? Granted Songbird might be a tad overrated, but to say Plum is better is ridiculous.
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:52 PM
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let's be fair and real, Beholder is the Queen, and has been since age 2, her loss to Stellar Wind, was just that, a loss against a better horse that day, and she will win the rematch with Stellar Wind, as far as Songbird, my money is still on Beholder, she is still The Queen, Long live The Queen!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:14 PM
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If it was anywhere other than Santa Anita, I'd be more inclined to take a shot against Beholder. If Songbird was to go beat her out there, it would push an already great campaign into the stratosphere.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:33 AM
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Is a win in the BCD better than a place in the BCC ?
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Old 10-04-2016, 12:18 PM
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let's be fair and real, Beholder is the Queen, and has been since age 2, her loss to Stellar Wind, was just that, a loss against a better horse that day, and she will win the rematch with Stellar Wind, as far as Songbird, my money is still on Beholder, she is still The Queen, Long live The Queen!!!!!!!!!!!!

well it looks like Stellar Wind is the better of the 2 now.

interesting analysis -
Beholder just lost to Chrome at SA...Stellar wind defeated Beholder,
Does that mean Stellar Wind could get to Chrome in the Classic...

Nah...I doubt it



all the fillies and mares should run in the classic...Beholder, Stellar Wind and Songbird.

with no colts worth a dam at this point in the year, you have Frosted as a contender, and perhaps Arrogate. In the Awesome again, Chrome jogged on home, shut down with 100 yards to go, in front of Dortmund who is a really good horse...Chrome made him look like a claimer

not only with the fillies and mares in the classic, would that make a better race for the ITM positions in the BCC, but it frees up other distaffers to make that race competitive as well .
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Old 10-04-2016, 04:04 PM
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well it looks like Stellar Wind is the better of the 2 now.
Beholder has been more successful in the last couple of years chasing a target early. Inside draws have forced her hand early in the Vanity, Hirsch, and Lady's Secret, so presuming she settles into a stalking position in the BC, we will see definitively whether or not she's lost a step (the speed figures don't suggest it).

Furthermore, Stellar Wind is suspect to hold her form. She has been campaigned sparingly ever since she made her first 3 starts for Sadler in quick succession culminating in a defeat in the KY Oaks. She was all out at the wire and now has to recover enough to compete in 4 weeks time instead of her normal 8 weeks.

The interesting thing to anticipate is the pace scenario. I haven't followed the East Coast closely, but Cavorting is a closer as I believe Curling and Forever Unbridled are. Will there be anyone in there to match strides with Songbird early?
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:58 AM
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Wonderful bet. Sharp handicapping.
Thank You, Thank You

I'd like to thank all the members of the academy for giving me the opportunity to bet
But of course, first i would like to thank my parents for the life I have,
and there's drf and ragozin for supplying all the data necessary to make the betting decisions.
and finally all the members of the racing community for maintaining this great sport, drug free and full of integrity
and last but certainly not least there would be steve byk and all the participants of the derby traill for their deepest insights into the game

thank you
thank you again

best of bets to all.
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