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Old 09-12-2016, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 View Post
Are the opinions in your post and the one before it mutually exclusive? Handle on multi-race bets is increasing, especially the Pick 4 and Pick 5, even in the midst of a handle decline. Of course, those bets were not offered en masse in the late 90s and early 00s when handle surged.

Personally, until I see real data, I can't get a handle on what lower minimums have done to payouts. I do know that it allows sophisticated bettors additional opportunities at more coverage, and does invite people who otherwise would not to get into the pools. The tax ramifications are also positive, so there's plenty to like.

If you isolate Derby weekend, the super goes to a $1 minimum, and I find it almost unplayable at that price point. That's just a personal opinion, which I think most of these are until someone produced actual research.
You are right it is my personal opinion but that opinion is based upon what I am seeing here on the Picks thread. I don't see anyone that is profitable playing strictly P4's. I see people betting the same amount of money they played at $1 price point and hitting at a much higher percentage but the payouts seem way lower. I'd love to see some research myself but I don't think it will happen. When did Saratoga institute .50 P4's? I'll do some informal.
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