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Old 06-05-2016, 08:53 AM
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Remarkable person, athlete and life..

The outpouring of affection in paying tribute to him has been stunning. Sent out these links yesterday.

Bob Lipsyte's tremendous NYT Obit: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/sp...tml?ref=topics

Incredible cultural marker/commentary timeline of his life from BBC. Not to be missed.. How a stolen bike turned Muhammad Ali into one of the most famous people on the planet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zy3hycw

Louisville Courier-Journal's Dave Kindred covered Ali and wrote Sound and Fury about Ali & Cosell.. From NPR upon its' release: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5294873
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Old 06-05-2016, 11:07 AM
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He spoke very powerfully about his opposition to serving in Vietnam:

“Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality. If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn’t have to draft me, I’d join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I’ll go to jail, so what? We’ve been in jail for 400 years.”
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:14 AM
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As a fighter I always rooted against him. Couldn't stand Pacheco kissing his ass during every broadcast. Sometimes I would turn the sound off. Cosell was bad but at least I got the joke

His early years were remarkable and with a style never seen in the Heavyweight division he took the world over. However like everything else, other fighters adapt and change, and father time always wins in the end.

His waning years were horrible. All his fights were going the distance and were downright boring. Also in 3 fights he was handed victories, Jimmy Young, Ken Norton and E. Shavers.

Frazier, Norton and Ali gone. Long live George Foreman, the last of the great ones.

R.I.P.

My Favs. are Dwight Braxton (Qwaui), Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler.
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Old 06-06-2016, 08:34 AM
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As a fighter I always rooted against him. Couldn't stand Pacheco kissing his ass during every broadcast. Sometimes I would turn the sound off. Cosell was bad but at least I got the joke

His early years were remarkable and with a style never seen in the Heavyweight division he took the world over. However like everything else, other fighters adapt and change, and father time always wins in the end.

His waning years were horrible. All his fights were going the distance and were downright boring. Also in 3 fights he was handed victories, Jimmy Young, Ken Norton and E. Shavers.

Frazier, Norton and Ali gone. Long live George Foreman, the last of the great ones.

R.I.P.
Most athletes who are successful are hounded by the leech racists known as the Nation of Islam...who arguably are far worse and more of a threat than the Ku Klux Klan but you won't have any regular liberal in this sub-forum agree.

They're all self-hating caucasian ostrich hybrids.

Ali would've been greater as Cassius Clay his whole boxing career. The NOI took years from his career and years of his money.

They are a scourge on humanity.
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Old 06-06-2016, 12:49 PM
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Most athletes who are successful are hounded by the leech racists known as the Nation of Islam...who arguably are far worse and more of a threat than the Ku Klux Klan but you won't have any regular liberal in this sub-forum agree.

They're all self-hating caucasian ostrich hybrids.

Ali would've been greater as Cassius Clay his whole boxing career. The NOI took years from his career and years of his money.

They are a scourge on humanity.
I agree about NOI, Ali became a follower of traditional Islam and left them behind, they will fade into history like all hate groups, Ali's memory will last forever...RIP Champ!
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