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05-04-2016, 01:18 PM
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05-04-2016, 01:24 PM
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05-04-2016, 01:27 PM
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TVG not authorized to show Churchill's live races
By Matt Hegarty Churchill Downs has not authorized Television Games Network to broadcast the track’s races live on its flagship network or on TVG’s website for this year’s spring meet, an official for TVG said on Wednesday. The signal blackout on TVG’s most widely distributed network and the company’s account-wagering platform began on Saturday, when Churchill began its spring meet, according to John Hindman, the legal counsel for TVG. However, the live television signal is available on TVG2, a network that TVG rebranded after acquiring its competitor, HRTV, early last year. TVG2 is available on far fewer televisions than the flagship station. Customers of TVG are still able to bet on Churchill’s races through TVG’s website, the officials said. Though Churchill officials did not respond to requests for comment by early afternoon, the blackout is likely related to Churchill’s position as a competitor to TVG in the account-wagering market. Churchill’s account-wagering operation, twinspires.com, was showing the track’s races live on Wednesday and taking bets on its races. The weeklong run-up to the Kentucky Derby is the most important promotional period of the year for account-wagering operators, as the companies attempt to exploit national attention on the Derby to entice casual racing fans to their operations. Compared to committed racing fans, casual fans are far less likely to already have a betting account. Churchill was a former partner in HRTV with another racing company, The Stronach Group, but Churchill sold its stake in 2014, the year before TVG acquired the network. With the acquisition, TVG gained the signal rights to all of the tracks owned by The Stronach Group for seven years, as well as the existing contracts held by HRTV. At the time, Churchill had distribution contracts with HRTV, but the company has not commented since the acquisition on the term of those contracts.
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05-04-2016, 01:36 PM
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So I take it the relationship with Churchill and Betfair isn't overly friendly.
 I know it's silly of me to assume that Churchill is using an angle here but if they were competent enough to do so one would believe that they are looking into their own horse racing channel. Whether independent or in partnership with say...NBC Sports who has extra channels on satellite providers and some cable outlets specifically for premier league. They should look into it, if not. And give me an advisors fee or $3.00 elite special club rebate.
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05-06-2016, 08:01 PM
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Here's what I experienced today. I have TVG2 (hrtv) left over on a paid cable add-on, so I was able to see some races this week, not all.
I went to one of the PARX Turf Clubs today and they broadcast the first few races from CD via RCN, the regular track feeds. Then it all blacked out. RCN put up a message and we had to hunt around for NBCSN. Luckily they had regular cable also, since they will sometimes show a game on TV. But otherwise, it's all RCN. So we are watching every Derby in the last 10 years, no paddock shots, no nothing. We got a post parade, but we weren't sure if it was the CD race or Barbaro. We get no odds or nothing. We are getting a crawler on the KY Derby odds. That is tomorrow. We have no idea when post time is or odds or anything. My buddy sees them going into the gate for one race and goes to bet and the race was already off. It was delayed. He was shut out. The displays, were very late and only showed WPS, exacta and tri. We couldn't see anything. We were putting vouchers into machines to try and see minutes to post and current odds. It was horrible. People were frustrated and many just left. Nobody was mad at PARX, they were in the same boat as many. Everybody was mad at CDI. Horsplayers are smart, they know who is to blame. Tomorrow is going to be a disaster. If you are at Churchill, you can't know how detrimental this is to racing in other places. One of the worst things I've seen. This was a damn good card and tomorrows is too. I can't get a track stream on the internet, at home on TV or at any track or turf club anywhere near me. All I get is Jerry Bailey. That just made everybody angrier. Actually PA is unique. They block out open ADW competition (by state laws) and also block wifi in their facilities (by choice). Just a mess of confusion. I just think it's a real "tell" on CDI and what they think of the public. They will gladly roll in the dough on Derby week and now the BC, but could care less about the horseplayer. They want the event crowd and make money on drinks, food, tickets and parking. Not to mention giving exclusive rights to NBCSN, a cable-only network. The NBC for the bigger part, like the Derby. No consideration to the betting public. I've seen it all. A great lesson about CDI was the BC announcement. They sent out press releases to all the horse racing press. "Big Announcement Tomorrow !!! Be there at Churchill at 10 AM for big news !!!". Well, they leaked the announcement to the Wall Street Journal that night to have it on the morning wire and get a stock pump. The horsracing writers looked like chumps, because they went all the way to CD and found out the story was already all over the internet. Horrible. It's a shame. Great races today, great stories and I just wanted to see a RCN track feed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this would affect the handle today and tomorrow. Probably a "Racing is dying" story will follow. I feel a bit better. Not much. If I was really in the horse racing business, I'd want to get my product available to as many people as possible. Wouldn't you think ? Arghh.......
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05-06-2016, 09:21 PM
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Agree Pants. The WSJ over the DRF thing just made it official.
Surprised the Oaks card was not on CNBC with a CDI ticker below. As far as the OTB's, they are like a social gathering like the track. We only have a few. They are still a good idea if done right. We may go down to Timonium this summer, as I hear that is nice. Besides the track, the could be a nice spot. Not like the old NYC OTB's, more like a big bar and restaurant with tons of TV's and tellers.
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05-07-2016, 06:43 AM
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7:30 am Derby Day
TVG -- 4NJBets.COM is currently unavailable while we update the site. Please try again later. We apologize for this inconvenience and ask for your patience. 7;45 AM - UP Wonder if they will stream non NBC races tday as they didnot yesterday when they said they would.
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