Obamacare Bleeding Out

[Danzig]

You dont often see someone bitching that theyre healthy. What next, complaining you havent used your car insurance?

[saratogadew]

United Healthcare here in PA pulling out of Obama care for 2017. Losing massive amounts. Not enough healthy workers to pay for the freebies.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

United Healthcare here in PA pulling out of Obama care for 2017. Losing massive amounts. Not enough healthy workers to pay for the freebies.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...03-column.html

It is a ****ing exchange they set the price they are willing to take the business for. It is like you buying a stock and watching it tank and blaming the exchange.

[saratogadew]

"Aetna, Anthem, and Cigna, UnitedHealth's biggest competitors, will no longer offer Exchange coverage in a number of counties across the country."

[saratogadew]

Originally Posted by jms62

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...03-column.html

It is a ****ing exchange they set the price they are willing to take the business for. It is like you buying a stock and watching it tank and blaming the exchange.

This is the way I understand it. Let's look at another business model and use the same dynamics. Let's call it the "Newspaper Exchange". We agree that everyone should be entitled to read the news and learn about the world. People in Brooklyn can't afford the newspaper. But still, the newspaper will be delivered to them free of charge. But in order to make up for this loss, the Manhattanites will be charged 5.00 a day for the paper. Some Manhattanites balk at paying 5.00 a paper and 20 percent cancel. Now the following year the remaining 80 percent must be charged 6.25 for the paper to make up for the Brooklyn freebies. Now 20 percent more cancel the paper and the downward spiral continues. Even though it is an "Exchange" and the Newspaper company can charge what they want, they know the ceiling that exists.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Danzig

You dont often see someone bitching that they're healthy. What next, complaining you haven't used your car insurance?

never said i was healthy....and you have no clue....I'm saying the insurance is too costly and the deductible is too high and they take long to payout and the doctors dont like it and they often refer my treatments to out of net work providers which means it cant be used towards the deductible.

and car insurance is 1,000 per year, not 600$ per month

[jms62]

Originally Posted by richard burch

never said i was healthy....and you have no clue....I'm saying the insurance is too costly and the deductible is too high and they take long to payout and the doctors dont like it and they often refer my treatments to out of net work providers which means it cant be used towards the deductible.

and car insurance is 1,000 per year, not 600$ per month

"Hey doc that doctor you referred me to is not in my network, can you please refer me to someone else?" Try it and if you get pushback then go to a different doctor. All the issues you cite I empathize with and quite frankly have been experiencing them for my entire adult life. At least now if you REALLY get sick your insurance can't drop you forcing you into financial ruin. I saw that happen and it scared the **** out of me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by richard burch

never said i was healthy....and you have no clue....I'm saying the insurance is too costly and the deductible is too high and they take long to payout and the doctors dont like it and they often refer my treatments to out of net work providers which means it cant be used towards the deductible.

and car insurance is 1,000 per year, not 600$ per month

you need to double check on that out of network stuff. it depends on if it's covered. when I had neck surgery last fall, the neurosurgeon wasn't in network, but I didn't have any others within 50 miles, so they covered just like it was in network. if they refer you to a specialist, and they're the only game in town, it may be covered.
and yes, it is costly-blame those trying to make a profit off of illness. blame trying to create dividends for shareholders.
as for your last line...I know, I'm in the business. health care is nothing like insurance for property or vehicles, etc.

[Pants II]

Everything the government does with taxes concerning the levels is to embed your precious mind with the thought process that it is absolutely pointless to earn more money unless you make enough where you can hire an accountant and attorneys to hide the money from the IRS.

So any person who is making good money but not enough to be like a politician is literally effed sideways by an infected schlong.

So yeah Obamacare is great if you're a broke idiot who wants Hillary to win because Trump is a white man and you hate strong white men who want to protect other white men and women from a group of people that have hated our kind for centuries.

But yeah it's good. It's all the evil insurance companies fault and not the assholes who didn't read the bill but signed it anyways because omg racism black guy in office have to lick his ******* cause slavery.

[Pants II]

I pay the tax, btw. The deductibles are way too high. If anything were to happen I'd be bankrupt anyway.

It's horrible, unfair coverage that discriminates and punishes the healthy.

I am taxed for being healthy.

So 10 bad health welfare queens can continue their bad habits.

Sorry but there's no way it's going to save ME money. Maybe Scumbag Magee.

But then again it seems all our politicians care about are the super rich and they use the poor to invoke fear in the working class.

Working class needs to all quit. Then what? It all ends..

In fact all white men should stop working in protest.

[Rileyoriley]

2nd year of paying the tax. It was cheaper than one month's premium. Haven't had health insurance in 26 years.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

2nd year of paying the tax. It was cheaper than one month's premium. Haven't had health insurance in 26 years.

Brilliant decision