Apparently the Kentucky Derby is racist

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Is it me or is the point of this being missed?

It's not you. They are totally missing the point. The obvious point is that this is another case of political correctness running amok. This has become a pattern nowadays and it seems to be getting worse. The people who make these demands keep moving the goal posts too. When their demands are met, that is never the end of it. A short time later, they will demand something else.

The thing that many people don't realize is that most of the people making these demands are professional victims. They are unhappy people and they're not really sure why they're unhappy. So in this particular case, they found a reason to be unhappy. They are unhappy because they are offended by the theme of the party. Next time, it will be something else. they're just blowing off steam. It's totally misplaced anger. They will always find something to complain about. The girl in my friend's building was like this. You would be mistaken to take her complaint about the Christmas tree literally. She wasn't really unhappy about the Christmas tree. She was unhappy, period. It had nothing to do with the Christmas tree. She was always complaining about something. If she wasn't complaining, you'd have to assume she was under the weather.

I would love to follow up on the group that complained about the Ky Derby party. I would bet anything that they have complained about several other things and will continue to complain about a number of issues. There are people out there like this. If they're not complaining, they wouldn't have anything else to do. In addition, when they get their way it just encourages them to come up with something else to complain about.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's not you. They are totally missing the point. The obvious point is that this is another case of political correctness running amok. This has become a pattern nowadays and it seems to be getting worse. The people who make these demands keep moving the goal posts too. When their demands are met, that is never the end of it. A short time later, they will demand something else.

The thing that many people don't realize is that most of the people making these demands are professional victims. They are unhappy people and they're not really sure why they're unhappy. So in this particular case, they found a reason to be unhappy. They are unhappy because they are offended by the theme of the party. Next time, it will be something else. they're just blowing off steam. It's totally misplaced anger. They will always find something to complain about. The girl in my friend's building was like this. You would be mistaken to take her complaint about the Christmas tree literally. She wasn't really unhappy about the Christmas tree. She was unhappy, period. It had nothing to do with the Christmas tree. She was always complaining about something. If she wasn't complaining, you'd have to assume she was under the weather.

I would love to follow up on the group that complained about the Ky Derby party. I would bet anything that they have complained about several other things and will continue to complain about a number of issues. There are people out there like this. If they're not complaining, they wouldn't have anything else to do. In addition, when they get their way it just encourages them to come up with something else to complain about.

Yup, I dont even know about this case but your points are spot on.

[Danzig]

You guys do realize the protest was last year, that it was in regards to racism in general because of the many police stories? That only a few protesters decided to protest at this sorority? That the members decided to make a change based on their own beliefs, not because of the protest last year? You might want to read the story linked in the daily caller article, rather then just going by that piece.
Because it sounds to me that the sorority had close to a year to think all this over, and 96 percent said make the change. Was it due to the protests, or just part of a larger picture? I think its the latter.....
And no, i didnt miss the point that some are trying to make....because i think that is not the point of what happened.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

You guys do realize the protest was last year, that it was in regards to racism in general because of the many police stories? That only a few protesters decided to protest at this sorority? That the members decided to make a change based on their own beliefs, not because of the protest last year? You might want to read the story linked in the daily caller article, rather then just going by that piece.
Because it sounds to me that the sorority had close to a year to think all this over, and 96 percent said make the change. Was it due to the protests, or just part of a larger picture? I think its the latter.....
And no, i didnt miss the point that some are trying to make....because i think that is not the point of what happened.

Thanks for linking to the Dartmouth article. While I am still offended by the misunderstanding of the use of "antebellum" in regards to the origins of the Kentucky Derby, it's less easy to see it as KDE being "forced" to change their theme, when it looks like the sorority did it under their own initiative.

And I also get Dunbar's point, that for a group of college students who likely have no actual interest in horse racing, that the theme of an annual party is not the hill they want to cry on. I think they just want to dress up and whether they wear fancy hats or love beads is immaterial to them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Thanks for linking to the Dartmouth article. While I am still offended by the misunderstanding of the use of "antebellum" in regards to the origins of the Kentucky Derby, it's less easy to see it as KDE being "forced" to change their theme, when it looks like the sorority did it under their own initiative.

And I also get Dunbar's point, that for a group of college students who likely have no actual interest in horse racing, that the theme of an annual party is not the hill they want to cry on. I think they just want to dress up and whether they wear fancy hats or love beads is immaterial to them.

yeah, antebellum is a term that many apparently think means 'old south'. not quite. nor is the derby antebellum....but, good luck getting that out there. (when lady antebellum hit the scene, I asked....why would a band name themselves lady before the war? have yet to get an answer)
I think after last years various protests, they had a year to consider what they wanted to do going forward, and decided a change from what's been done for years is called for.
but some people don't like change at all, so we get breathless panicky articles, that don't even accurately report what the story was.

I think the real point is...why is this thread that has nothing at all to do with racing in the paddock? and how it is apparent that the Kentucky derby is racist at that?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yeah, antebellum is a term that many apparently think means 'old south'. not quite. nor is the derby antebellum....but, good luck getting that out there. (when lady antebellum hit the scene, I asked....why would a band name themselves lady before the war? have yet to get an answer)
I think after last years various protests, they had a year to consider what they wanted to do going forward, and decided a change from what's been done for years is called for.
but some people don't like change at all, so we get breathless panicky articles, that don't even accurately report what the story was.

I think the real point is...why is this thread that has nothing at all to do with racing in the paddock? and how it is apparent that the Kentucky derby is racist at that?

The Jimmy Winkfield Memorial Party begins 2017 I will invite all the appropriate NY Congressional reps for a picture opportunity. Calling Silvia's to book the date once NYRA announces the date.

[fpsoxfan]

Laugh now, but all its going to take is a slight amount of attention to this story and then suddenly they will be targeting the actual Derby itself. And don't think it couldn't happen.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's not you. They are totally missing the point. The obvious point is that this is another case of political correctness running amok. This has become a pattern nowadays and it seems to be getting worse. The people who make these demands keep moving the goal posts too. When their demands are met, that is never the end of it. A short time later, they will demand something else.

The thing that many people don't realize is that most of the people making these demands are professional victims. They are unhappy people and they're not really sure why they're unhappy. So in this particular case, they found a reason to be unhappy. They are unhappy because they are offended by the theme of the party. Next time, it will be something else. they're just blowing off steam. It's totally misplaced anger. They will always find something to complain about. The girl in my friend's building was like this. You would be mistaken to take her complaint about the Christmas tree literally. She wasn't really unhappy about the Christmas tree. She was unhappy, period. It had nothing to do with the Christmas tree. She was always complaining about something. If she wasn't complaining, you'd have to assume she was under the weather.

I would love to follow up on the group that complained about the Ky Derby party. I would bet anything that they have complained about several other things and will continue to complain about a number of issues. There are people out there like this. If they're not complaining, they wouldn't have anything else to do. In addition, when they get their way it just encourages them to come up with something else to complain about.

They are professionals at getting their own way and have been doing so their entire life. Thank their helicopter parents for that. It is not so much that they are unhappy but they need to get their own way. I am not even sure deep down they give a **** about getting their own way in this scenario. It is a game to them