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Old 05-04-2015, 04:02 PM
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I'm amazed that People are trying to pick the winner of the Belmont a little less than two weeks before the Preakness has been run.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:13 PM
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I'm amazed that People are trying to pick the winner of the Belmont a little less than two weeks before the Preakness has been run.
You're like the lady in the live audience at a Jerry Springer taping that stands up and invariably proclaims, "Y'all need therapy!".

9 of the last 10 Belmont winners did not run in the Preakness.

But I guess we should at least wait for the Peter Pan or Dwyer or whatever they call it now.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:18 PM
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I'm amazed that People are trying to pick the winner of the Belmont a little less than two weeks before the Preakness has been run.
Why all these threads? They should just be asking Don Guido, it could save a lot of typing.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:37 PM
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Why all these threads? They should just be asking Don Guido, it could save a lot of typing.
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:38 PM
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Old 05-04-2015, 04:46 PM
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:29 PM
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I dont get the Keen Ice love at all. Some very good cappers had him in the mix for the Derby, I didn't see it then and don't give him a prayer in the Belmont. He needs an allowance race. I guess its pointless to knock huge bombs, but where is his good race? I thought the Fair Grounds preps were the weakest of them all and he never really threatened in any of those races.
As for the Belmont my guess as of now would be Upstart or Frosted assuming they both skip the Preakness.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:32 PM
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I dont get the Keen Ice love at all. Some very good cappers had him in the mix for the Derby, I didn't see it then and don't give him a prayer in the Belmont. He needs an allowance race. I guess its pointless to knock huge bombs, but where is his good race? I thought the Fair Grounds preps were the weakest of them all and he never really threatened in any of those races.
As for the Belmont my guess as of now would be Upstart or Frosted assuming they both skip the Preakness.
Sal actually thinks Keen Ice ran a great race, considering the 'super slow' pace of the Derby.

That's nonsensical, of course.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:35 PM
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Sal actually thinks Keen Ice ran a great race, considering the 'super slow' pace of the Derby.

That's nonsensical, of course.
He is one of the very good handicappers I speak of. I dont get how speed figure guys can like this horse. Top beyer 88 coming in a race where the horse who won has the same running style as him. A horse some of those same top handicappers said was to slow to win the Derby. How can you knock International Star and then tout Keen Ice?
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:40 PM
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If someone can beat American Pharoah I think it will be Materiality. BIG trip in the Derby.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:43 PM
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He is one of the very good handicappers I speak of. I dont get how speed figure guys can like this horse. Top beyer 88 coming in a race where the horse who won has the same running style as him. A horse some of those same top handicappers said was to slow to win the Derby. How can you knock International Star and then tout Keen Ice?
Yeah, it makes no sense at all man.

I think he got too cute with himself. He's had some good scores in the past using that line of reasoning, but unlike most other years, this crop is more top heavy in talented runners, so I believe it's a lot harder for a slow clunk up type of runner to clunk up for a piece.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:45 PM
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A horse some of those same top handicappers said was to slow to win the Derby. How can you knock International Star and then tout Keen Ice?
The Belmont is a different race. Loads of "too slow" horses have won the Belmont.
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:56 PM
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I'm amazed that People are trying to pick the winner of the Belmont a little less than two weeks before the Preakness has been run.
Way too much idle time on their hands. Me, I'm using my idle time figuring out how I can do more "red boarding" on the Preakness since now I know what turns everyone on here. : cool:
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