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Old 04-23-2015, 09:56 AM
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talk about a disingenuous argument. he says we shouldn't 'discriminate' against people who don't want to do their job for some customers. so, he is arguing that a religious right is a greater right than the right of a human being to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that someone's right to use religion is a greater right than a person to be given the same civil rights as everyone else. religious belief isn't a greater right. one can dislike gay marriage, hold opinions against it, but at the end of the day, if you're a businessperson, open to the public, you must follow th law. all are granted equal protection under the law-no one is granted greater protection under the law.
a business doesn't hold a religious belief. and god forbid public servants can stop doing their job due to their private beliefs.
render unto god what is gods, render unto ceasar what is ceasars...and all that.
one can deny an individual a service based on clothing (no shoes, no shirt, no service) or drunkeness (bars witholding because you've had too much) bu no one can discriminate against an entire class of people.
good lord, people could have used this argument when it was segregation-actually some did...just like religion was used to defend slavery.
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talk about a disingenuous argument. he says we shouldn't 'discriminate' against people who don't want to do their job for some customers. so, he is arguing that a religious right is a greater right than the right of a human being to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. that someone's right to use religion is a greater right than a person to be given the same civil rights as everyone else. religious belief isn't a greater right. one can dislike gay marriage, hold opinions against it, but at the end of the day, if you're a businessperson, open to the public, you must follow th law. all are granted equal protection under the law-no one is granted greater protection under the law.
a business doesn't hold a religious belief. and god forbid public servants can stop doing their job due to their private beliefs.
render unto god what is gods, render unto ceasar what is ceasars...and all that.
one can deny an individual a service based on clothing (no shoes, no shirt, no service) or drunkeness (bars witholding because you've had too much) bu no one can discriminate against an entire class of people.
good lord, people could have used this argument when it was segregation-actually some did...just like religion was used to defend slavery.
Refusing someone a job, meal or drink because of sexuality, using religion as the reason is pure and simple discrimination.

Forcing an individual to partake in a gay marriage ceremony ignoring their religious rights is the same thing, discrimination.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...310_story.html

Absolutely sickening and appalling
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...c97_story.html

Note the second paragraph!! The FBI was troubled by their findings...so they stopped reviewing! They had to be forced to resume

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...c97_story.html
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Other than that how bout this heartwarming story..on ABC news tonite.

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A former Popeye’s Louisiana Kitchen employee said she was fired after a store robbery because she refused to reimburse the franchise for the stolen cash.
Read more at http://now.snopes.com/2015/04/22/pre...VlKHmYlz7iD.99
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Other than that how bout this heartwarming story..on ABC news tonite.
I read the story...dont see how they ever thought they could make her reimburse.
however.......a place i worked at years ago was robbed, and that employee on shift, like this one in the story, didnt keep her drawer at a low level. We had a drop safe...soon as you were handed a 20, you were to drop it. Convenience stores and the like have a rule where you keep 35 or less in your drawer, so that you dont become even more of a target for robbers...c stores are so often a target, so they dont want to become known as a place with easily accessible high amounts of cash.
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Other than that how bout this heartwarming story..on ABC news tonite.
She wasn't fired for not reimbursing the company but rather for not following company policy. She was 'afforded' a chance to get her job back if she paid back the stolen money (that was not supposed to be in the drawer).

Poor publicity move IMO for Popeyes but I hate their chicken.

She should seek work at Chick fil A, much better product.
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A lawsuit filed this month by The American Civil Liberties Union could force Catholic charities to provide contraception and abortions for illegal immigrants in their care.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ic-charities-/

Utterly ridiculous, and time for the Church to get out of the illegal care business. Illegals be damned as far as the heartless ACLU is concerned.
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She wasn't fired for not reimbursing the company but rather for not following company policy. She was 'afforded' a chance to get her job back if she paid back the stolen money (that was not supposed to be in the drawer).

Poor publicity move IMO for Popeyes but I hate their chicken.

She should seek work at Chick fil A, much better product.
She is just unlucky to be working for the wrong company. Had she been working for AIG and didn't follow policy causing the company to lose Billions she would have been rewarded with a huge bonus

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/03/1...he-passengers/
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She is just unlucky to be working for the wrong company. Had she been working for AIG and didn't follow policy causing the company to lose Billions she would have been rewarded with a huge bonus

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/03/1...he-passengers/
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She is just unlucky to be working for the wrong company. Had she been working for AIG and didn't follow policy causing the company to lose Billions she would have been rewarded with a huge bonus

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/03/1...he-passengers/
Yea but that would involve going to college and graduating. With her unsure of accepting an offer like:

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Z&H Foods owner Amin Dhanani offered to reinstate Holcomb’s position at Popeye’s, along with $2,000 in back pay for her time out of work. Holcomb told KHOU that she was unsure as to whether she would accept the offer.
that probably wouldn't have been a possible.

BTW Popeyes must be paying some hefty wages for her to be able to support four children. That or her husband was working for AIG.
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