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Old 03-23-2015, 01:26 PM
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Speaking of relocating animals, they are bringing bison back to Alaska. They should have probably consulted with a few of you first to make sure that it's a good idea and to make sure that they are doing it right. Does this plan have all of your approval?

"The first of 100 wood bison aimed at re-establishing a species that went extinct more than a century ago in Alaska were flown Sunday to a rural village."

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In your mind does flying in 100 Bison now make your deer relocation program viable?
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:00 PM
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In your mind does flying in 100 Bison now make your deer relocation program viable?
It is possible to relocate animals. It is done all the time with all different kinds of animals. I live in Los Angeles. Occasionally a mountain lion or a bear wanders into the city. When they won't leave, sometimes they will tranquilize them, put them in a crate, and take them back to the hills.

As I said before, it obviously depends on the number of animals. I never said that it could be done in every case or even in most cases. All I said is that instead of just immediately deciding to kill a deer or any type of animal, they should see if there are other options. When there are other feasible options, then I would not be in favor of killing the animals.

So do you approve of the plan to import the wood bison into Alaska?
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:05 PM
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It is possible to relocate animals. It is done all the time with all different kinds of animals. I live in Los Angeles. Occasionally a mountain lion or a bear wanders into the city. When they won't leave, sometimes they will tranquilize them, put them in a crate, and take them back to the hills.

As I said before, it obviously depends on the number of animals. I never said that it could be done in every case or even in most cases. All I said is that instead of just immediately deciding to kill a deer or any type of animal, they should see if there are other options. When there are other feasible options, then I would not be in favor of killing the animals.

So do you approve of the plan to import the wood bison into Alaska?
Do you think you answered my specific question?
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:45 PM
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Do you think you answered my specific question?
Did you answer mine? A discussion or debate is so supposed to be a two-way street. I will always be happy to answer your questions as long as you answer mine.

And yes, I did answer your question. I don't know how I could make my position any more clear. For the 10th time, "It obviously depends on the number of animals. I never said that it could be done in every case or even in most cases. All I said is that instead of just immediately deciding to kill a deer or any type of animal, they should see if there are other options. When there are other feasible options, then I would not be in favor of killing the animals."

That is it. I don't how I can make my position any more clear. If here in Los Angeles we had a situation where we ended up with 500 deer in an area where they weren't supposed to be, what would I do if I were in charge? I would get some unbiased experts and see what the options were. I would hope they could somehow be relocated. If it couldn't be done, then it couldn't be done. I would certainly want to hear all the options. If it was immediately suggested that they all be shot, I certainly would not be in favor of that until exploring all other options.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:57 PM
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Did you answer mine? A discussion or debate is so supposed to be a two-way street. I will always be happy to answer your questions as long as you answer mine.

And yes, I did answer your question. I don't know how I could make my position any more clear. For the 10th time, "It obviously depends on the number of animals. I never said that it could be done in every case or even in most cases. All I said is that instead of just immediately deciding to kill a deer or any type of animal, they should see if there are other options. When there are other feasible options, then I would not be in favor of killing the animals."

That is it. I don't how I can make my position any more clear. If here in Los Angeles we had a situation where we ended up with 500 deer in an area where they weren't supposed to be, what would I do if I were in charge? I would get some unbiased experts and see what the options were. I would hope they could somehow be relocated. If it couldn't be done, then it couldn't be done. I would certainly want to hear all the options. If it was immediately suggested that they all be shot, I certainly would not be in favor of that until exploring all other options.
Who would pay for this effort?
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Old 03-23-2015, 03:15 PM
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Who would pay for this effort?
why does man drive groups to extinction, or close to it, and then try to save them? it seems....odd.

as for the deer: the whitetail is one of the most adaptable species in this country. the number of deer is far larger than colonial times. they are a nuisance and a danger, and cause thousands of wrecks each year. they should have a herd cull of dramatic proportions and donate all the meat to charities. people move to the suburbs, and go ohhh, look at the pretty deer. and then the pretty deer eat their landscaping. or they attack someone during mating season.

An estimated 1.23 million deer-vehicle collisions occurred in the U.S. between July 1, 2011 and June 30, 2012, costing more than $4 billion in vehicle damage, according to State Farm, the nation’s leading auto insurer.

also cause 200 fatalities annually. we had about 500k deer at the start of the 19th century...today it's about 20 million.
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Old 03-23-2015, 11:55 PM
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Who would pay for this effort?
I would divert the money from lunch programs for poor children.
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