FLORIDA 2YO TRAINING SALES: F-T February & OBS March

[Easy Goer Otis]

My partner has a pretty strong opinion that 2Yo's should not be fully exerted until they have the proper physical foundation, which is usually several months from now. So he was only looking at horses who were galloping.

Cheers,

Otis

[Cannon Shell]

It is much harder to select horses based on galloping than breezing.

While his hypothesis may or may not be correct, in the days where horses made more starts and had longer careers, they were already racing two year olds by this time of the year

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is much harder to select horses based on galloping than breezing.

While his hypothesis may or may not be correct, in the days where horses made more starts and had longer careers, they were already racing two year olds by this time of the year

It's got to be easier then buying them as yearlings or weanlings. Somebody paid 3 million for a weenie how does that happen

[Rupert Pupkin]

The OBS March Sale is going on right now. One of the first year sires who is looking pretty good so far is Twirling Candy. He had a colt at the Barretts Sale sell for $400,000 and now he just had a colt at OBS sell for $500,000. He's got a few more in this sale who look really good too. I don't think he has a ton of 2 year olds this year either. I think he was only bred to around 70 mares in his first year, unlike Super Saver last year who was probably bred to around 120 mares in his first year.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The OBS March Sale is going on right now. One of the first year sires who is looking pretty good so far is Twirling Candy. He had a colt at the Barretts Sale sell for $400,000 and now he just had a colt at OBS sell for $500,000. He's got a few more in this sale who look really good too. I don't think he has a ton of 2 year olds this year either. I think he was only bred to around 70 mares in his first year, unlike Super Saver last year who was probably bred to around 120 mares in his first year.

I notice the Uncle Mo's have generally been selling well. How do they look to you?

It's a bit odd that his yearlings and 2yos have sold well, but his advertised stud fee has gone down.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I notice the Uncle Mo's have generally been selling well. How do they look to you?

It's a bit odd that his yearlings and 2yos have sold well, but his advertised stud fee has gone down.

I think they have looked pretty good so far. They've been selling pretty well and they have worked pretty well.

Sometimes with a first year sire there can be really high demand. Sometimes there is a buzz about a certain sire and a lot of people want to breed to them. I think that was the case with Uncle Mo. His stud fee was $35,000 and I think he was booked pretty full, if not totally full. His yearlings sold reasonably well but not incredible. At the Keeneland Sep Sale his yearling average was $106,000 and the median was $75,000. That is decent for a sire that stands for $35,000 but not incredible.

Super Saver's yearling numbers were more impressive. At Keeneland Sep, his yearling average was $105,000 and his median was $80,000. But his stud fee was only $17,500. That is a much better return on your money. Even with him, his stud fee didn't go up in 2014, not even after his two year olds worked and sold well at the first couple of 2 year old sales. It wasn't until 2015 that his stud fee went up to $35,000, and that is because his progeny won a couple of graded stakes races in 2014. In general, the horses have to produce on the track for the stud fee to go up. With Uncle Mo, his stud fee may not have gone down if his yearlings' median was $100,000-$120,000, but his median was only $75,000 and they looked pretty good, but not great. If his 2 year olds win some big races this year, you will see his stud fee go up in 2015.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

The OBS March Sale is going on right now. One of the first year sires who is looking pretty good so far is Twirling Candy. He had a colt at the Barretts Sale sell for $400,000 and now he just had a colt at OBS sell for $500,000. He's got a few more in this sale who look really good too. I don't think he has a ton of 2 year olds this year either. I think he was only bred to around 70 mares in his first year, unlike Super Saver last year who was probably bred to around 120 mares in his first year.

Twirling Candy had 3 more horses sell. They went for $300,000, $630,000, and $310,000. I know that is a pretty small sample but those numbers are great.

[outofthebox]

What about the auspicious debut of Adios Charlie. Two sold for 600k...

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

What about the auspicious debut of Adios Charlie. Two sold for 600k...

Was a big buzz coming into the sale about what he's going to be as a stallion.