The Red Sox Are Finished

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Calling half of those deals "trades" is laughable. If that is the case, can I call a rod a "trade acquisition"? How about Clemens? Knoblauch?

When a team like the padres "trades" a young stud 1st baseman for minor leaguers and stud subsequently signs 100 trillion dollar contract before he plays an inning, that is in essence a free agent signing. When a team that is about to become history "trades" the best young arm in baseball and said pitcher signs for a trillion dollars, that is in essence a free agent signing.

Yeah, schilling was a "trade". So was Pedro.

We have already debated this. The yanks last world series was pretty sickening but let's not act like Boston's were homegrown. At least the yanks best players during their dynasty years were farm products. Boston can't even say that.

Despite the overwhelmng evidence you refuse to admit you are wrong as usual.
SO the Red Sox forced these teams to deal with them? What above market deal did they do? Who signed for $250 million dollars?
They gave up Carl Pavano who when he was traded was the 9th ranked prospect in the game by Baseball America.
They gave up Hanley Ramirez for Beckett and Lowell.
They gave up 4 highly ranked prospects for Schilling including Astros current closer Brandon Lyon and 1st round pick Fossum. Schilling made 10 million in 03 with AZ, 12 million in 04 with Boston.
Everyone knew that SD wasn't going to resign with AZ. Do you think he wouldn't have found someone to meet his asking price if they had kept him as a FA? That Boston giving up 2 top prospects doesnt count?

That is the difference. Boston has signed good players to realistic contracts and let guys go at the right time and collected draft picks that they have used wisely. The fact they have the ability to trade top prospects to get players back is the difference. The Yankees for the most part just spend. Who is an important player that they have drafted in the 2000's? Besides Cano who is thier young homegrown talent?
And yeah you can call the Clemens deal a trade. They didn't exactly give him away considering David Wells and Lloyd were top players.

My point isnt that Boston doesn't have a high payroll compared to a lot of other teams but they are no where near the Yankees in throwing money at guys.