Scat Daddy's FL Derby Beyer

First of all, thank you JJP for sharing all of your hard work with us. That is really nice.

As far as Nobiz beating AGS, I think people are reading a little too much into this race to "make weight" to their arguments. It's okay to back Nobiz, but AGS was forced very wide in the first turn and still somewhat wide on the 2nd turn. He finally hit the wall in the stretch after going the long way. So I dont think it makes Nobiz run any faster that he beat AGS, more or less a melt down for AGS.

More importantly, we coming back to two horses we havent talked about much but could shed more light on this: Chelokee and Sightseeing. THey butted heads with each other at least a couple of times in ALW races at GP. Their head to head score is 1-1. They both appear to have run consistent races once you factor in the ground loss in both of Sightseeings races (breaking from 9/11 holes in these races).

My question is did anybody see these races: (GP 3March, 5th race; GP 11Feb, 7th race). Be interested in any notes on ground loss, and how fast they were running at the end. They dont look to be very fast closers from the PPs but maybe someone saw this better and can comment.

My pt. is that aside from Notional, these two animals are the closest runners we have to the winners No Biz and Scat Daddy. We dont have many data pts to compare to Notional but we have several data pts. that we can use to compare these two horses to the the winners.