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Old 01-17-2007, 11:47 PM
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Default Consider this my weekly.....

long-winded Discreet Cat is the greatest thing since sliced bread post......


<WARNING : You may need to take a painkiller or two before reading this.>


There is an insane theory going around that Discreet Cat might have trouble going a route of ground....and that he "is a miler."

I assume this theory isn't based on the fact that he got his last 1/4 mile in a supersonic 23 and change when he won his debut.

I also assume it's not based on the fact that he routed a trio of South American superstars at 9 furlongs, in only career start #3, while making his stakes debut.

I also assume it's not based on the fact that he has rated kindly (even when wrestled back behind slow paces) in every career start. In fact, typically, horses that rate kindly, and can be taken back behind less-than-fast early paces, they seem to have the most sucess stretching out.

So, what is all this nonsense about DC's "possible distance limitations" based based upon?

I can only assume it's pedigree related....and the logic behind it is that he's by Forestry (a precieved sprinter/miler) out of a mare "who blew a stretch lead going 5 furlongs in her debut."

People forget that Forestry raced 4 times in route races in his career. He won three of them, and was 3rd beaten 1 length to Menifee (that year's Derby 2nd place finisher) and Cat Thief (that year's BC Classic winner) in his only loss.

Pretty Discreet (DC's dam) was an 8 length, big figure, Grade 1 winner going 10 furlongs. Discreet Cat's 2nd dam is a full sister to a KY Oaks winner. DC's 3rd dam is very closely related to half siblings Touch Gold (Belmont Stakes winner) and With Approval (Canadian Triple Crown winner) Not bad!

DC's dam did blow a lead sprinting in her career debut---however, Point Given's dam (Turko's Turn) blew a clear lead going just 4.5 furlongs at Golden Gate in her career debut.



Did that trivial piece of information stop anyone from thinking the 12 furlong Belmont Stakes (Which PG won by a city block) would be "too far" for him?

I know a rational arguement can be made that Pretty Discreet simply loved the Saratoga slop....and her incredible performance in the '95 Alabama Stakes was an absolute fluke.



Obviously, the sloppy track and speed favoring nature of it had a lot to do with her gigantic 22 point new career top figure---however, the fact that she was able to rate comfortably, on an uncontested early lead, for the first time in her life, also played a pretty key role in the big jump-up.

Point Given's dam, as you can see above, also jumped up to an 11 point new career top, when she was stretched out, and allowed to get comfotable, while loose on an uncontested early lead, for the first time in her life.

I will end this painfully long winded post, by suggesting that when the day comes, and Discreet Cat is allowed to get loose on an uncontested early lead, through comfortable early fractions, over a speed biased track, and going long....Ghostzapper's (another supposed sprinter) 128 Beyer will possibly be eclipsed.
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