Trivia - Page 3

The Indomitable DrugS · #41 03-13-2010, 12:51 AM

Not a hard one .... but .....

Name this future Gr 1 winner ....

RolloTomasi · #42 03-13-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Actually, his half brother was third in the KY Derby. Sorry!

2nd in the msw was Westcott. Third was Camouflage Pirate.

Those horses don't help.

We're looking at an Indian Charlie or Free House brother then. Again, before either ran themselves, so its a lot tougher. Soviet Sojourn ran in the early '90s, so it's unlikely to be Indian Charlie then.

I guess it could be even a Golden Act or Jaklin Klugman half brother.

Indian Charlie · #43 03-13-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Those horses don't help.

We're looking at an Indian Charlie or Free House brother then. Again, before either ran themselves, so its a lot tougher. Soviet Sojourn ran in the early '90s, so it's unlikely to be Indian Charlie then.

I guess it could be even a Golden Act or Jaklin Klugman half brother.

Jaklin Klugman is the half brother.

The name of the horse was All Slewped Up. Greenman trained, Klugman owned. I don't think he ever even worked out again.

Do you remember a horse named Shinnecock Hills from the early 90s? A Skywalker that won very impressively his first two out?

RolloTomasi · #44 03-13-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Not a hard one .... but .....

Name this future Gr 1 winner ....

I'm actually not sharp with recent horses but that one is going to be Afleet Alex unless you're pulling a fast one.

RolloTomasi · #45 03-13-2010, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Do you remember a horse named Shinnecock Hills from the early 90s? A Skywalker that won very impressively his first two out?

Yep, the name anyways. Wasn't that a 505 Farms horse possibly?

The Indomitable DrugS · #46 03-13-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'm actually not sharp with recent horses but that one is going to be Afleet Alex unless you're pulling a fast one.

Yeah - it's AA.

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2004/pps/2c.pdf

Rose actually cost him the 2yo championship with an absolutely terrible ride in the BC Juvie.

Indian Charlie · #47 03-13-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Yep, the name anyways. Wasn't that a 505 Farms horse possibly?

I think he was. I always wondered what happened to him. I found out years later he ended up running for a low tag at I believe MNR, maybe two years later.

He was a really nice colt.

Bruho also, he ended up running for something like 2500.

RolloTomasi · #48 03-13-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think he was. I always wondered what happened to him. I found out years later he ended up running for a low tag at I believe MNR, maybe two years later.

He was a really nice colt.

Bruho also, he ended up running for something like 2500.

Bruho used to lug out sharply in some of his races. In one race I think he might have even dumped the jock inside the 1/16th pole.

Indian Charlie · #49 03-13-2010, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Bruho used to lug out sharply in some of his races. In one race I think he might have even dumped the jock inside the 1/16th pole.

I've always had a fondness for horses that dump their jock.

RolloTomasi · #50 03-13-2010, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I've always had a fondness for horses that dump their jock.

Apparently, he did it more than once.

Here's an article from the LA Times:

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-12-..._1_race-horses

Gaining Ground · #51 03-13-2010, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Apparently, he did it more than once.

Here's an article from the LA Times:

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-12-..._1_race-horses

thanks for the link. racing needs someone like jim murray writing again.

Danzig · #52 03-13-2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I'm actually not sharp with recent horses but that one is going to be Afleet Alex unless you're pulling a fast one.

that one i knew, but as drugs said, it was an easy one!

miraja2 · #53 03-13-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - it's AA.

http://www.drf.com/eclipse/2004/pps/2c.pdf

Rose actually cost him the 2yo championship with an absolutely terrible ride in the BC Juvie.

So you don't think yanking the horse to the outside coming out of the first turn and then attempting to sustain a drive for about 6f was the best strategy?
Rose's lack of patience on the horse probably cost him the Triple Crown as well as the BCJ.

philcski · #54 03-13-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

So you don't think yanking the horse to the outside coming out of the first turn and then attempting to sustain a drive for about 6f was the best strategy?
Rose's lack of patience on the horse probably cost him the Triple Crown as well as the BCJ.

IMO the CD track cost him the triple crown. Unfortunately, there was about a 200 yard long stretch on the inside around the turn and the start of the stretch where EVERY horse that ran through there looked like they were running in quicksand. I was sitting right there and didn't believe my eyes until I rewatched all the tape from the day. For example Madcap Escapade was (rightfully) 1/5 in the 7F stake, starts her move and looks like she's going to blow by then just stops all her momentum. AA went over the same spot and lost all momentum as well- he managed to rerally and even stick his nose in front before Giacomo and Closing Argument snuck by on the outside.

I don't think Rose did anything wrong. He had the horse in the right spot given that insane pace.