Forde and the Ragozin guys weigh in on changing the Triple Crown

[Danzig]

england has gone even longer without a triple winner, the great nijinsky being the last. i doubt anyone there is complaining, feeling the lack, or wanting to change how the races are run.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

england has gone even longer without a triple winner, the great nijinsky being the last. i doubt anyone there is complaining, feeling the lack, or wanting to change how the races are run.

There are quite a few people looking for a change to the triple crown here stating that the st. Leger over 14 1/2 f is just not good for a wouldby stallion. Case in point this year with Sea The Stars highly unlikely to race in the Leger, opting instead to drop down in trip!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brockguy

There are quite a few people looking for a change to the triple crown here stating that the st. Leger over 14 1/2 f is just not good for a wouldby stallion. Case in point this year with Sea The Stars highly unlikely to race in the Leger, opting instead to drop down in trip!

i saw that sea the stars might skip it for something a bit shorter-a shame. but are the shouts for change at all as loud as over here?

[brockguy]

There just seems to be a general acceptence that the triple crown here is no longer the crown jewel of the three year old career! It's been like that for 20 years, it's just again been highlighted due to another guineas/ derby winner!

One interesting point from France is that nearly all the trainers now want to put the French Derby distance back up from 10 1/2 f to 12f. It was dropped in distance in 2005(?).They think it was a drastic mistake and it has essentially become a prep for the 'real' French derby, the grand prix de Paris on Bastille day

[Linny]

Even the Derby (Epsom) is no longer the ultimate test for a potential stallion. Colts that win the Derby are usually promptly dropped back to 10f so that they will have the credibilty they need to earn a future stud career. If Montjeu had not gotten off to a stellar start, his great record at 12f would have certainly been a disadvantage in trying to boost him. Wiinning the St Leger would seem to be the kiss of death for a colt.