Tues. 08/05 ATR what a depressing show

[sdjcom]

During the triple crown series Steve, Haskin, and others said not to take Dutrow to serious because that's his personality, he's a new yorker, brashgodocious and really adds a little spice to the racing game.Now he said
a few things about Curlin, which are factually true, and Steve ripped him apart. He must have been in a bad mood. Also this Chuck Simon is the most negative trainer I've ever heard, he has nothing positive to say about anybody or anything. He downgrades the Japan Cup Surburban, Big Brown,
I know he is entitled to his opinion, but he only talks about the negative. What a difference between his interview, and someone like Larry Jones,Shug
Madella, Frankel, Zito and that'smy opinion! Let me say that most of the shows are great, just a bummer yesterday.

[Antitrust32]

At least they didnt have a 10 year old on the show giving out picks.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

During the triple crown series Steve, Haskin, and others said not to take Dutrow to serious because that's his personality, he's a new yorker, brashgodocious and really adds a little spice to the racing game.Now he said
a few things about Curlin, which are factually true, and Steve ripped him apart. He must have been in a bad mood. Also this Chuck Simon is the most negative trainer I've ever heard, he has nothing positive to say about anybody or anything. He downgrades the Japan Cup Surbanban, Big Brown,
I know he is entitled to his opinion, but he only talks about the negative. What a difference between his interview, and someone like Larry Jones,Shug
Madella, Frankel, Zito and that'smy opinion!

I think Steve and Haskin may have the exclusive on T-Shirts promoting the potential matchup of Curlin and Big Brown. They're just doing what they have to do to boost sales.

If Chuck Simon sounds negative, it's likely he got cut out of the deal, so I give him a pass.

I'm not sure what a "Surbanban" is. Is it anything I can eat?

[sdjcom]

Sorry about spelling of Surburban, I know i sound negative, but this Simon on every show he is on is bad news from him. Go back and listen to archives.

Chuck's not always negative. He must've done some physical labor before the show.

[sdjcom]

Maybe you're right i've only been listening for a year now , I guess i missed his good interviews.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

I know i sound negative, but this Simon on every show he is on is bad news from him.

I know I'm hung over but.........what??????

[sdjcom]

Still drinking on Tuesday nights?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What does brashgodocious mean?

I think it's funny when people pick out one word or sentence from this guy's posts to question, as if the rest of the post makes sense.

[DogsUp]

I never have listened to the show. In my opinion, talk shows are a waste of time (sort of like this post).

Originally Posted by DogsUp

I never have listened to the show. In my opinion, talk shows are a waste of time (sort of like this post).

You should check the archives on the website. I highly recommend 'A Stich in Time' segment.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I actually made most of it out, but have never heard that word before.

I tip my cap to your cognitive powers then.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What does brashgodocious mean?

i have no idea, but 'bragadocious' (believe that is spelled correctly) is analogous to 'brash', which would sort of make sense in the context. i think.

[onebadbeast]

If Chuck Simon Sounds Negative, Then Thats Just Fine With Me. What Do You Want In Your World, Rose Colored Glasses? He Is Actually One Of The Nicest Guys You Will Meet In The Game.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

During the triple crown series Steve, Haskin, and others said not to take Dutrow to serious because that's his personality, he's a new yorker, brashgodocious and really adds a little spice to the racing game.Now he said
a few things about Curlin, which are factually true, and Steve ripped him apart. He must have been in a bad mood. Also this Chuck Simon is the most negative trainer I've ever heard, he has nothing positive to say about anybody or anything. He downgrades the Japan Cup Surburban, Big Brown,
I know he is entitled to his opinion, but he only talks about the negative. What a difference between his interview, and someone like Larry Jones,Shug
Madella, Frankel, Zito and that'smy opinion! Let me say that most of the shows are great, just a bummer yesterday.

One of the biggest problems that this sport faces is that the "racing media" has often consisted of flowery prose about lovely horses and press releases announcing "news" like a post race concert series. Adding to this is the inhouse "racing experts" who often know little to nothing about handicapping, training, riding or the historical aspects of the sport. One of the great things about this meet is the siros seminars which feature guys who actually get the sport, understand the wagering and handicapping aspect and realize the historical signifigance or lack thereof of certain performances and events. Steve's show which is unique in it is a daily show that needs to fill 3 hours a day is in many ways the equilivent of the Siros show on the air. He is passionate about the sport and attempts to educate the general listening public about the "other side of the fence" which is often the truth. In my case I am not afraid to tell the truth and speak in plain terms unlike some of the diplomatic trainers that you mentioned. Maybe you want to believe that Jess jackson is some wonderful guy and curlin is a racing god and Dutrow is colorful. Maybe you want to believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus too? This is 2008 and people want information and they want educated opinions. Steve and I give you both. If you choose not to like what we say, your call. But I will continue to swoon when people need to look at the beyer figure before determining whether a race was good or not and when a horse who has done nothing really special gets his "legacy" talked about. Am I excited over the prospect of Curlin in the Woodward? Not particularly. Would it be an interesting story if he ran against BB? Sure. If it is Curlin against the 7 dwarfs that ran in the Whitney or Steven Foster, how exciting is that? Is Curlin running in the Japan Cup Dirt an exciting development? No. Do I think that his 4 year old campaign has been "great for racing" like the other sheep? Not really. maybe because i have seen great horses up close and personal. maybe because I grew up in Saratoga and saw truly great races and still remember when horses needed to run in races to have a "legacy".

If you want fluff and bs, listen to Dave Johnsons show.

[MISTERGEE]

DOOOOOWN the stretch they come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

One of the biggest problems that this sport faces is that the "racing media" has often consisted of flowery prose about lovely horses and press releases announcing "news" like a post race concert series. Adding to this is the inhouse "racing experts" who often know little to nothing about handicapping, training, riding or the historical aspects of the sport. One of the great things about this meet is the siros seminars which feature guys who actually get the sport, understand the wagering and handicapping aspect and realize the historical signifigance or lack thereof of certain performances and events. Steve's show which is unique in it is a daily show that needs to fill 3 hours a day is in many ways the equilivent of the Siros show on the air. He is passionate about the sport and attempts to educate the general listening public about the "other side of the fence" which is often the truth. In my case I am not afraid to tell the truth and speak in plain terms unlike some of the diplomatic trainers that you mentioned. Maybe you want to believe that Jess jackson is some wonderful guy and curlin is a racing god and Dutrow is colorful. Maybe you want to believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus too? This is 2008 and people want information and they want educated opinions. Steve and I give you both. If you choose not to like what we say, your call. But I will continue to swoon when people need to look at the beyer figure before determining whether a race was good or not and when a horse who has done nothing really special gets his "legacy" talked about. Am I excited over the prospect of Curlin in the Woodward? Not particularly. Would it be an interesting story if he ran against BB? Sure. If it is Curlin against the 7 dwarfs that ran in the Whitney or Steven Foster, how exciting is that? Is Curlin running in the Japan Cup Dirt an exciting development? No. Do I think that his 4 year old campaign has been "great for racing" like the other sheep? Not really. maybe because i have seen great horses up close and personal. maybe because I grew up in Saratoga and saw truly great races and still remember when horses needed to run in races to have a "legacy".

If you want fluff and bs, listen to Dave Johnsons show.

Caton Bredar gave out the Hambo winner there on Saturday

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

Caton Bredar gave out the Hambo winner there on Saturday

He has only won how many in a row?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He has only won how many in a row?

Note the sarcasm... he's like 13-0 and paid $2.40 to win. What a great piece of info that was.

[MISTERGEE]

like any show the dave johnson show has guests on there that you could make some $ paying some attention to and others that you would be best served ignoring