Commentator > First Defence

[ateamstupid]

Go easy on me Andy.

Fine effort by Commentator to overcome the training job by Zito.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

not taking anything away from commentator..but it just shows how sad the horses are in this year....great job by commentator /zito knowing the rail,the speed, the lack of talent.. means a 7 year old wins the whitney..

[largo1]

Is Commentator a gelding? I didn't think he was, but now I'm thinking he must be. Can't find any mention of it online.

Suzanne

[hockey2315]

Yes, he's a gelding.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Distorted Humor has somehow become a great big route race stallion.

Hystericalady just embarassed the field going 10fs in the $1 million Del Cap

Commentator has two Whitneys.

Funny Cide has a Derby and Preakness

Any Given Saturday has a Haskell score over Curlin and Hard Spun

Flower Alley has a Travers win and a 2nd in the BC Classic.

[declansharbor]

Threadjack Alert...

Not sure if it was mentioned elsewheres, but is there any update on Rising Moon after being vanned off with a left front leg injury??

Thx in advance.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Threadjack Alert...

Not sure if it was mentioned elsewheres, but is there any update on Rising Moon after being vanned off with a left front leg injury??

Thx in advance.

It was either the jockey or a thrown shoe.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Distorted Humor has somehow become a great big route race stallion.

Hystericalady just embarassed the field going 10fs in the $1 million Del Cap

Commentator has two Whitneys.

Funny Cide has a Derby and Preakness

Any Given Saturday has a Haskell score over Curlin and Hard Spun

Flower Alley has a Travers win and a 2nd in the BC Classic.

Two Questions:
1) Do you think the fact that he won a race named the Salvator Mile is what gave him that extra something special to be a great sire?

2) Do all of those big victories by his progeny make up for the fact that he also is the one responsible for the creation of Cowtown Cat?

[ArlJim78]

preliminary beyer for Commentator - 120

[XIIPointStables]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

preliminary beyer for Commentator - 120

Wow. Has there been a 120 in the last five years? Didn't Lawyer Ron get a monster Beyer in the same race last year before it was adjusted down?

[hockey2315]

That's not his top - he ran a 123 in the last Whitney. Ghostzapper also ran faster and probably a few others that I can't think of.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

Wow. Has there been a 120 in the last five years? Didn't Lawyer Ron get a monster Beyer in the same race last year before it was adjusted down?

That is the most skeptical 120 fig since Midway Road's.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Because the wildly overrated Ginger Punch, and the complete bums she beat, went so slow - it makes it almost impossible to not have the Whitney in the 116-to-120 range without cutting races loose and making hack redboard style of figures.

[Quiet Chris]

The 120 beyer would be believable if it didn't mean Student Council ran a 112. No way that horse is running a 112.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

The 120 beyer would be believable if it didn't mean Student Council ran a 112. No way that horse is running a 112.

I can think of a couple of hundred races that I'd expect to get a 120 before the Whitney.

Probably thousands before a 112 that Student Council got.

[cmorioles]

Would anybody really be surprised that an Asmussen suddenly ran a huge race?

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Because the wildly overrated Ginger Punch, and the complete bums she beat, went so slow - it makes it almost impossible to not have the Whitney in the 116-to-120 range without cutting races loose and making hack redboard style of figures.

Even if you cut this race looose, it would be hard to give Commentator much less than something in the 116-120 range. The 3rd place horse finished 13 lengths behind. That's about 20 Beyer pts. If Commentator is given a 116, then horses 3-11 get 96 or less. But every one of those 9 horses except Cowton Cat and Notional had run at least a 97 BSF in 2 of its last 3 races, and Notional came into the race off a 109 BSF. To give Commentator less than 116 would mean that the 9 horses behind Student Council had regressed off recent form.

--Dunbar

[hockey2315]

But it's not like Student Council was a new acquisition or a young horse.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

But it's not like Student Council was a new acquisition or a young horse.

It is his first try on fast dirt with Asmussen.