bad day at CD

[jwkniska]

Two horses had to be put down and Bridgmohan and to go to the hospital. At least he didn't get any serious injuries.
Unfortunately, this is the last thing CD needs... is more bad press.

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...ory?id=3455452

[parsixfarms]

The horse that broke down in the first race and was subsequently euthanized (Vinstar) was a $700,000 Vindication dropping in to a $50,000 maiden claiming race off a credible MSW race in which he ran a 74 Beyer in his first start of the year. All the signs were that this horse had a hole in him. Perhaps Jess Jackson should look in the mirror before questioning how others take care of their horses.

[Alan07]

Boy a lot of jockeys are getting injured

[wac]

What an awful day, glad i wasnt there. Your right thats the lst thing that CD needs at this time. Just sux for all involved.

Headline on Drudge.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The horse that broke down in the first race and was subsequently euthanized (Vinstar) was a $700,000 Vindication dropping in to a $50,000 maiden claiming race off a credible MSW race in which he ran a 74 Beyer in his first start of the year. All the signs were that this horse had a hole in him. Perhaps Jess Jackson should look in the mirror before questioning how others take care of their horses.

Be interesting to see if J Jackson makes K Ramsey eat the claim.
I bet I know the answer if the roles were reversed.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The horse that broke down in the first race and was subsequently euthanized (Vinstar) was a $700,000 Vindication dropping in to a $50,000 maiden claiming race off a credible MSW race in which he ran a 74 Beyer in his first start of the year. All the signs were that this horse had a hole in him. Perhaps Jess Jackson should look in the mirror before questioning how others take care of their horses.

TOTALLY AGREE... i thought this horse was a lock, but did not wager because of the highly questionable drop.... this makes me sick

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Be interesting to see if J Jackson makes K Ramsey eat the claim.
I bet I know the answer if the roles were reversed.

if you claim a horse, he's yours-but you can buy claimer insurance in case something like this happens. not that it does that horse any good.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

TOTALLY AGREE... i thought this horse was a lock, but did not wager because of the highly questionable drop.... this makes me sick

So he wasn't a lock then..

Was sad to see Vinstar go down though. Didn't look good from the outset.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So he wasn't a lock then..

Was sad to see Vinstar go down though. Didn't look good from the outset.

We all can be "mad as hell, and we'll not take it anymore."

I think 95% of us here love horses, and about 95% of us here love to bet horses.

I've done both for longer than most of you have been around.


These trainers and owners and breeders need to back it down.

It's still be racing, even with sturdily bred horses.


Kinda like a NASCAR restrictor plate race.....but a whole lot better.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

We all can be "mad as hell, and we'll not take it anymore."

I think 95% of us here love horses, and about 95% of us here love to bet horses.

I've done both for longer than most of you have been around.


These trainers and owners and breeders need to back it down.

It's still be racing, even with sturdily bred horses.


Kinda like a NASCAR restrictor plate race.....but a whole lot better.

I had a colonoscopy once that was a whole lot better than NASCAR.

And I assure you, I don't like things going in my ass.

[MaTH716]

Why is ESPN running the news of the breakdowns on the sports ticker on the ESPN news channel? Does someone up there work for PETA? Or are they going to start reporting about every horse that breaks down, because if that's the case I didn't see the blurb about the horse that went down in the 2nd at Hollywood on Friday night. Just seems strange.

[Cannon Shell]

Made the cover of the Louisville Courier journal. The worst part about this kind of coverage is that despite any and all efforts to control drugs, breeding practices, etc these things will still happen on occasion.

[SilverRP]

So a horse has something wrong with him. Connections drop him, race him, he breaks down, and nothing will be done??

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

So a horse has something wrong with him. Connections drop him, race him, he breaks down, and nothing will be done??

Proving that something was wrong is the problem. The horse passed the pre race exam. If you can prove that a horse was injured prior to the race then you may have a point.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by SilverRP

So a horse has something wrong with him. Connections drop him, race him, he breaks down, and nothing will be done??

What horse doesn't have something wrong with him/her? Every one of them has something wrong, some to a greater degree than others.

[10 pnt move up]

This is why its a big deal that racing better at least due its best to address, rather then the usual ignore and people will forget about it manor in which they seem to handle other issues.

The scroll on ESPN under the horse tab and on ESPN news was "two horses euthanized after breaking down at Churchill downs today" it gave the specifics as well but dont remember. Then it says "Sailors Cap wins 600k Colonial Turf Cup".

ESPN and all shows/sites care about ratings, they track that Big Brown loses the Belmont story and it gets 500k hits, then the story about Larry Jones having a drugged horse and it gets 750k....well you know where there coverage goes.

The congress can take up tons of important issues but if its something the public does not really care about then they will certainly bring up something that tugs at peoples emotions and this clearly does, and especially during an election year.

If horses keep breaking down on national TV and racing just has "panels" to discuss it, as they do with say the NTRA players panel and nothing ever happens, then this is going to get worse before it gets better. Just ask Barry Bonds and baseball how it worked out for them just trying to ignore the problem for decades.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

This is why its a big deal that racing better at least due its best to address, rather then the usual ignore and people will forget about it manor in which they seem to handle other issues.

The scroll on ESPN under the horse tab and on ESPN news was "two horses euthanized after breaking down at Churchill downs today" it gave the specifics as well but dont remember. Then it says "Sailors Cap wins 600k Colonial Turf Cup".

ESPN and all shows/sites care about ratings, they track that Big Brown loses the Belmont story and it gets 500k hits, then the story about Larry Jones having a drugged horse and it gets 750k....well you know where there coverage goes.

The congress can take up tons of important issues but if its something the public does not really care about then they will certainly bring up something that tugs at peoples emotions and this clearly does, and especially during an election year.

If horses keep breaking down on national TV and racing just has "panels" to discuss it, as they do with say the NTRA players panel and nothing ever happens, then this is going to get worse before it gets better. Just ask Barry Bonds and baseball how it worked out for them just trying to ignore the problem for decades.

If you think that there is a solution to horses breaking down, I would love to hear it.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you think that there is a solution to horses breaking down, I would love to hear it.

Certainly there is nothing that can completely eliminate the problem, but we could start with drug free race day medications. We all know horses are running when they should not be. Another thing that needs to be done is racing meets need to be scaled back and the yearly number of races run need to be reduced, so when horses are not running because they are in pain they are not forced to run to fill races. race tracks need to support these bans but a reason they put up with drugs is they need all these races to fill and if a little pain killer is needed I don't think they care as long as the races fill.

I think tracks is some states were allowed to get harder and harder, such as California, and in the long run led to training race horses for quarter horse speed which is not a good thing if you have to run more then four hundred yards.

I think trainers should be punished like they are in Hong Kong for drug violations.

I think its ridiculous that horses are hit 30 times down the stretch, its legal now but that does not make it right.

I think the breeding industry is a sham right now, its a meat market mentality that starts when they look at the pedigree match ups right through the two year old sales. I could go on and on.