2YO Experts

asudevil · #1 06-19-2008, 12:47 PM

This is from a thread on 5-28:

I simply made an observation:

Watch out.....

....for Saarland's first crop.....They look nice.

And the breeding afficiando that calls himself "Indomitable Drugs" stated:
The DT stock has now hit it's 52 week low after that last comment.

Well Collegiate, 2YO Filly by Saarland just put on a phucking clinic in the Belmont 2nd!!

You got any other 2yo advice that the fine members of DT should follow this summer?

Scav · #2 06-19-2008, 12:50 PM

ateamstupid · #3 06-19-2008, 12:52 PM

She's out of Saarland? I couldve sworn Saarland had a scrotum..

Linny · #4 06-19-2008, 01:16 PM

Jan said "out of" in the paddock too. That filly looked good. She's a 1/2 to The Student.

Indian Charlie · #5 06-19-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

She's out of Saarland? I couldve sworn Saarland had a scrotum..

Personal Experience?

ateamstupid · #6 06-19-2008, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Personal Experience?

Pictures from sumitas.

Rupert Pupkin · #7 06-19-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asudevil

This is from a thread on 5-28:

I simply made an observation:

Watch out.....

....for Saarland's first crop.....They look nice.

And the breeding afficiando that calls himself "Indomitable Drugs" stated:
The DT stock has now hit it's 52 week low after that last comment.

Well Collegiate, 2YO Filly out of Saarland just put on a phucking clinic in the Belmont 2nd!!

You got any other 2yo advice that the fine members of DT should follow this summer?

I think the Saarlands look alright. There was one at the Keeneland Two Year Old Sale that looked really good. Pletcher ended up buying her. I don't know her name but she is out of a Storm Cat mare named Joying. Keep your eye open for that one.

#8 06-19-2008, 01:28 PM

This is beyond retarded.

citycat · #9 06-19-2008, 01:59 PM

There were two at the OBS sale this week. Hips 4 and 527. Hip 4 was a late out but I thought looked good. The consigner said he just had the horse for 60 days. I thought the work was nice but they ended up pulling it from the sale. Hip 527 RNA'd for 4K I think and did not look good. If you cant sell a horse at this sale (the last 2 yr old sale) you are in tough luck.

I know a very small sample size.

I thought the Scrimshaw's didnt look too bad for the price if you were trying to bargain shop.

freddymo · #10 06-19-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil

This is from a thread on 5-28:

I simply made an observation:

Watch out.....

....for Saarland's first crop.....They look nice.

And the breeding afficiando that calls himself "Indomitable Drugs" stated:
The DT stock has now hit it's 52 week low after that last comment.

Well Collegiate, 2YO Filly out of Saarland just put on a phucking clinic in the Belmont 2nd!!

You got any other 2yo advice that the fine members of DT should follow this summer?

This DrugS is an overrated loser... The Saarland was a lock..

I wouldnt invest a nickel on anything he has to say..First class LOSER

parsixfarms · #11 06-19-2008, 02:33 PM

I don't know that I'd draw too many conclusions about Saarland from this filly. At $400,000, she was by far the highest price Saarland to sell at auction last year (suggesting that she was a superior individual, particularly given the bottom side of her pedigree). With the market crazy about first crop sires, especially those from the Unbridled sire line, to my way of thinking, it is not a good sign that Saarland's average yearling last year only sold for about $40,000 and that he only had three sell for a figure in excess of $100,000. Obviously, time will tell.

freddymo · #12 06-19-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I don't know that I'd draw too many conclusions about Saarland from this filly. At $400,000, she was by far the highest price Saarland to sell at auction last year (suggesting that she was a superior individual, particularly given the bottom side of her pedigree). With the market crazy about first crop sires, especially those from the Unbridled sire line, to my way of thinking, it is not a good sign that Saarland's average yearling last year only sold for about $40,000 and that he only had three sell for a figure in excess of $100,000. Obviously, time will tell.

His book was beyond ordinary...

parsixfarms · #13 06-19-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

His book was beyond ordinary...

The quality of his book is a reflection of what the breeders think of him as a stallion prospect, especially in his first crop. I guess then that we should expect "ordinary."

freddymo · #14 06-19-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The quality of his book is a reflection of what the breeders think of him as a stallion prospect, especially in his first crop. I guess then that we should expect "ordinary."

I expect Saarland to be a great stallion.. He was a very ordinary grade 2 plodder. His pedigree is wonderful and he was a very pleasing horse to look at.. Of course his first book sucked who wants to try and resell a plodder in the age of fast and fizzle..

miraja2 · #15 06-19-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil

Well Collegiate, 2YO Filly out of Saarland just put on a phucking clinic in the Belmont 2nd!!

FYI: The filly is "out of" La Sorbonne....not Saarland. Horses are "by" their sires and "out of" their dams.
I would pm this to DrugS too, but something tells me he might already know it.

Rupert Pupkin · #16 06-19-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

The quality of his book is a reflection of what the breeders think of him as a stallion prospect, especially in his first crop. I guess then that we should expect "ordinary."

I don't think anyone was suggesting that he will be the next AP Indy. What does Saarland stand for? I would guess about $10,000. He might be alright as a $10,000 stallion.

freddymo · #17 06-19-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

FYI: The filly is "out of" La Sorbonne....not Saarland. Horses are "by" their sires and "out of" their dams.
I would pm this to DrugS too, but something tells me he might already know it.

You had better PM him immediately

mrmikegap · #18 06-19-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think anyone was suggesting that he will be the next AP Indy. What does Saarland stand for? I would guess about $10,000. He might be alright as a $10,000 stallion.

According to the Stallion Register, Saarland's fee is private, and he stands an Darby Dan Farm in Lexington KY.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-r...n=singlesearch

parsixfarms · #19 06-19-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Of course his first book sucked who wants to try and resell a plodder in the age of fast and fizzle..

If the quality of his first book was as poor as you suggest, then it would be a big surprise if he produces much this year. And if that happens, then it's a virtual certainty that the number of mares he will see and the quality of those mares that he does get will continue to decline as breeders opt for the next "flavor of the month." The facts that you are presenting only serve to suggest that he'll be a regional stallion in three years.

parsixfarms · #20 06-19-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmikegap

According to the Stallion Register, Saarland's fee is private, and he stands an Darby Dan Farm in Lexington KY.

If I recall my conversations with the people at Darby Dan this spring, I think you could have visited him this year for about $6,000 (which is half the $12,500 for which he stood in his first year).